Remaining Authentic in Retirement with Kelsey Hightower

Come find Justin in-person and get FAFOFM stickers! Devopsdays - Portland, OR - September 8-10. Get 20% off tickets with FAFOFM Edgecase - Gooiland Hilversum, NL - September 24 Taloscon - Amsterdam, NL - October 15-16 KCD UK - Edinburgh - October 19 Kubecon NA - Salt Lake City, UT - November 9-12 Have an opening? HIRE AUTUMN!!! She's looking for open source, forward deployed engineer, and developer relation roles. They need to be remote or flexible in-office schedules in Seattle.

Retirement is about the journey, not the destination. For Kelsey Hightower, it’s been an epic journey. On our debut episode of the Fork Around and Find Out Podcast (and much to Autumn’s elation), Kelsey joins us to run down his illustrious career that spans a quarter of a century.

Known for authenticity, Kelsey was on the frontlines of Kubernetes advocacy in the tool’s humble beginnings. Because of his time at Google, we get the inside scoop on why the company seems to enjoy killing off some of its most popular products. You’ll also hear his thoughts on why curiosity is essential to tech and why the industry needs to embrace problem solvers. We also get into the absurd state of the world, the moments that caused Kelsey to finally quit Twitter, and why he’s happy to embrace Bluesky. Kelsey is not just someone who cares. He’s a genuine human being who’s invested in the future of the industry. We can’t wait for you to check out this conversation, because we know you’ll love it! Show Highlights (0:00) Intro (0:37) Tremolo sponsor read (1:56) Introducing Kelsey Hightower (3:04) Reflecting on how Kelsey's 25-year tech journey shaped what he's been up to recently (9:15) Why you shouldn't be surprised when someone like Google kills off a product (14:46) How Kelsey built up his trust in the tech community through his honesty (16:31) Having the financial privilege to be able to say "no" (22:57) Is the churn and burn nature of the tech industry going to hurt innovation (29:19) Advising NFL stars Larry Fitzgerald and Kelvin Beachum on their tech investments (38:28) Figuring out how to make tech more sustainable by treating it like a relay race (42:36) Autumn’s appreciation for the Kubernetes community (44:16) How you can help sponsor the FAFO Podcast (45:17) Kelsey’s theory around the strong Kubernetes community (47:26) The future of the relationship between corporations and open-source (51:33) Kelsey's adventures in circuitry, doing electrical work on his home, and why that kind of curiosity is vital to learning new skills in tech (59:11) Is tech starting to abandon problem solvers? (1:03:41) Creating solutions for problems that don't exist (1:08:49) The absurd state of the world, social media, and how Kelsey helped lead the tech migration to Bluesky (1:19:40) The power and the positive impact you can have with a large online presence (1:30:29) Where you can find more from Kelsey About Kelsey Hightower Kelsey Hightower has worn every hat possible throughout his career in tech, and enjoys leadership roles focused on making things happen and shipping software. Kelsey is a strong open source advocate focused on building simple tools that make people smile. When he is not slinging Go code, you can catch him giving technical workshops covering everything from programming to system administration. Links Referenced Kelsey’s Github: https://github.com/kelseyhightower Kelsey’s Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com Sponsor Tremolo: http://fafo.fm/tremolo Sponsor the FAFO Podcast! http://fafo.fm/sponsor