S2 E2 - The One With The Therapy Ponies - Jane Lambert, CEO Makewell Clinic

A special edition of the show where for the first time we do an outside broadcast from the Hampshire SEND Conference held at the Utilita Bowl in Southampton on February 6th 2026. We were there at the invitation of friend of the show Laura Hamson to see how the special educational needs of children, such as those with autism and ADHD, are being met and engaged with by teaching staff across the county. It was an inspiring and insightful visit which both illuminated the challenges and the rewards of the work that the staff do, plus many interesting parallels and food for thought for those of us in the professional world. Special thanks to Laura and all the Hampshire SENCOs who made me feel so welcome on the day, and took the time to chat 🙏🏻 In this episode, we cover topics including:

In this final episode of the series, the tables are turned. For the first time on We Too Are One, host Martin Gale steps into the guest seat — interviewed entirely by AI. It’s something listeners have been asking for for a while, and it felt right to do it here, at the close of a series that’s explored neurodivergence from so many different perspectives. Rather than interviewing himself, Martin chose to entrust the conversation to AI — something he works with every day, and something that has also become an unexpected support alongside his ADHD. With no scripted questions and no agenda beyond context, the interview unfolds as a reflective, open conversation shaped entirely by what the system already knew about him. Martin talks candidly about his late ADHD diagnosis, the years of anxiety that preceded it, and the sense of relief that came with finally having a language to understand himself. He reflects on creativity, identity, leadership, work, and what it means to navigate a world that still struggles to make space for difference. As a series closer, this episode brings together many of the threads explored throughout the season — belonging, environment, self-trust, and the importance of leaving things better than we found them. In this episode, we cover topics including:

In this episode, we explore the relationship between neurodivergence and faith — and what religion can teach us about identity, belonging, and inclusion. My guest is Reverend Dr Allison Fenton, an Anglican priest, theologian, and educator. Allison lives with dyslexia and ADHD, and speaks openly about how her neurodivergence has shaped her faith, her ministry, and her understanding of herself. This is one of the first times she has spoken publicly about her ADHD. While the conversation is rooted in the Church of England, the themes we explore extend far beyond any single faith tradition. We talk about belonging, difference, community, and how institutions — religious or otherwise — can better embrace neurodivergent ways of being. In this episode, we cover topics including:

We’re continuing our exploration of the neurodivergent experience from all angles, and in this episode we turn to a perspective that sits right at the centre of many young people’s lives: education. My guest is Laura Hamson, School Improvement Manager for SEND and Inclusion at Hampshire County Council. Laura has oversight of special schools, resource provisions and inclusive practice across Hampshire — giving her a unique, whole-system view of what makes the difference for neurodivergent children in today’s classrooms. If you’ve listened to earlier episodes with Grant and Jane, you’ll know we’ve been building a rounded picture of the challenges families face. Laura brings another crucial part of that picture: how schools understand neurodivergence, how they support children, and what really helps young people feel they belong. In this episode, we cover topics including:

This episode explores the fascinating connection between neurodivergence and club culture — and asks why so many neurodivergent people are drawn to dance music and the dancefloor. My guest is Harold Heath — DJ, writer and producer — who’s written extensively about this very topic in publications including DJ Magazine. Harold has spent decades in electronic music, both behind the decks and behind the words, and his perspective on what draws neurodivergent people to this world is as thoughtful as it is relatable. If you’ve ever wondered why the club feels like home, or why DJing itself seems to speak to certain neurotypes, this conversation will hit close to heart. In this episode, we cover topics including: