
S12 Ep1: Why we need each other, not our devices: The science of social connection with Professor Nick Epley
The We Society with Will HuttonShow Notes
Around the world, we are experiencing an epidemic of loneliness, and it’s increasing, particularly among the millennial generation and younger. Our devices and modern living have made it easier to avoid talking with the people around us and it’s become increasingly easy to spend large amounts of time alone. In a world that many people see as divided, with distrust and political differences driving people apart, building social connections could also play an important role in tackling wider social problems. In this episode of the We Society with Will Hutton, Will speaks to Nick Epley, the John Templeton Keller Distinguished Service Professor of Behavioural Science at the University of Chicago. After an encounter with a stranger on his commute into work one morning, he became fascinated with the paradox that on the one hand we know that social interaction is vitally important for our wellbeing yet we often avoid it. With more than a decade’s worth of research, involving over 30,000 people and around 130 experiments, his aim was to uncover the reasons why we shy away from social interactions. And reassuringly, his results repeatedly found that people generally enjoy social interactions more than they expected to/expect. He talks to Will Hutton about his latest book published this year, ‘A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, And Connection’ (2026), in which he examines why it matters for our wellbeing and for the societies we live in to be a little more social. He explains that building social connections starts with the choices we make and that small actions, such as talking to a stranger or choosing to call rather than text, can have a positive impact on both ourselves and others. He also discusses how making these actions a regular habit can help us develop stronger connections over time. This episode is ideal for listeners interested in topical issues, behavioural science, wellbeing, and how we can address the problems surrounding loneliness and loss of connection. In the We Society, join acclaimed journalist and Academy of Social Sciences president Will Hutton, as he invites guests from the world of social science to explore the stories behind the news and hear their solutions to society’s most pressing problems. In this series social science calls on aspects of business, education, economics, geopolitics, healthcare, human geography and more, exploring their impact on society and the social policy they can inspire. The We Society is for those interested in how social science impacts their world, and how evidence backed research can improve it. Don’t want to miss an episode? Follow the show on your favourite podcast platform and you can email us on [email protected] and tell us who we should be speaking to. The We Society podcast is brought to you by the Academy of Social Sciences in association with the Nuffield Foundation and the Leverhulme Trust.
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