Ep 59 – Lessons From The Lab: The Gifts of MI
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Lessons from the Lab: The Gifts of MI
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Molly Magill for another edition of Lessons from the Lab, where she discusses her research and what she refers to as the Gifts of MI. Dr. Magill is currently an Associate Research Professor in the Department of Behavioral and Social Sciences in the Brown University School of Public Health. Dr. Magill is also the Director of Biostatistics at the Brown University Center for Alcohol and Addiction Studies. Dr. Magill’s broad area of study is mechanisms of behavior change in psychosocial treatment for alcohol and other drug use disorders. The goal of this work is to guide intervention development and refinement. In her most recent research, she is focused on therapist or counselor training methods that are based on common factors of established behavioral interventions.
How Motivational Interviewing works
Molly Magill explores research into how Motivational Interviewing works and what process studies can teach us about effective helping conversations. She discusses the search for the mechanisms or “engine” of MI and reflects on findings about therapist behaviour, client language and therapeutic relationships.
Molly describes three gifts of MI: being kind, being present and investing in therapist training. The discussion connects research evidence with everyday practice and practitioner development. These themes connect with Change Talk, the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing and Developing and Implementing MI.
In this episode
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
04:35 – Molly’s introduction and early MI story
12:05 – MI as a “revolutionary approach”
19:10 – Molly’s interest in therapy manuals and her search for an integrative model
24:10 – Why we search for the “engine”’
30:15 – Process research and the hypotheses for why MI works
40:20 – Important findings from MI process research
54: 30 – The three gifts of MI: 1) Be nice; 2) Be present; and 3) Therapist training
1:00:35 – Molly sharing a personal story
1:06:03 – End of episode
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