
494. AMMA — Navigating the Lows of Leadership
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael MogillShow Notes
What if not wanting to be a leader is exactly what makes you a good one?
In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three questions law firm owners keep sending in: why good employees walk out the door even after a raise, whether leadership can really be taught, and what to do when you catch yourself repeating the exact behavior you swore you'd never repeat. It's a candid conversation about what it actually takes to lead people, even when leading was never the plan.
Here's what you'll learn:
Why turnover in your firm rarely comes down to one cause
How to lead your team when management never came naturally
What it takes to stop repeating the leadership habits you swore you'd avoid
The best leaders never stop asking whether they could be better.
(00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:21) Why We Go To Bed At 8:30 (00:04:47) Why Discipline Feels Like Freedom (00:08:09) Diagnosing Sudden Employee Turnover (00:11:42) Exit And Stay Interviews Explained (00:15:12) Can Leadership Really Be Learned? (00:18:31) Why Leading Yourself Comes First (00:19:54) When You Become The Boss You Hated (00:22:44) The Power Of Asking What's The Argument
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Links & Resources:
Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual by Jocko Willink
Shark Tank
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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