
Episode 018 - Four Trophies and a Father's Gift with Avis Brown-Riley (Pt 1)
FRIENDS AND LEGENDS WITH SKIP MARTINShow Notes
Friends & Legends with Skip Martin
Host: Skip Martin
Summary:
Skip Martin sits down at Avis Brown-Riley's Las Vegas home with the only African American woman in the world to hold four Junior World titles. Avis traces the game back to her father, the legendary Gordon Brown Sr. of Charleston, South Carolina, who put a club in her hand at seven, and to a San Diego family with more than 320 junior victories nobody has matched in fifty years. Skip answers with the story of hearing Nat King Cole from the back seat of his grandparents' car and deciding right there to make music, then hands the audience two parables: the tree whose roots grow in the dark, and the farmer with a goat stuck down a well. Part one of two.
Main Topics:
• Gordon Brown Sr. introducing Avis to golf at seven in Charleston, South Carolina
• Winning her first tournament at eight and ranking among the world's best juniors by ten
• The four Junior World trophies, and being the only African American woman to hold them
• The Brown family's 320-plus San Diego junior victories, unmatched in fifty years
• The 65 at Canyon Crest Country Club, still the course record
• Skip hearing Nat King Cole from his grandparents' car and choosing music at seven
• Skip's tree analogy, and the parable of the farmer and the goat in the well
• Her honorary doctorate, and her book Building of a Champion in the USGA Library and Museum
• Playing the 1988 US Women's Open, third after Althea Gibson and Renee Powell
Intriguing Quotes:
• "Tiger is the male, I’m the female." - Avis Brown-Riley
• "I’m gonna make music so that when I die, people feel like I’m still in the car with them." - Skip Martin
• "There was nobody there to see her when it was dark and it was damp and there was resistance." - Skip Martin
• "Never give up. Believe in yourself. And never ever allow anyone to discourage you." - Avis Brown-Riley
• "The notes on the paper are like a GPS. They’ll drive you down the road, but they can’t drive the car." - Skip Martin
Key Moments:
[00:00] Skip welcomes Avis Brown-Riley at her home in Las Vegas
[01:11] Gordon Brown Sr. introduces her to golf at seven
[01:28] Skip on hearing Nat King Cole and choosing music
[02:26] The Junior World, and her first tournament win at eight
[02:42] “Tiger is the male, I’m the female”
[04:20] The 65 at Canyon Crest that still stands
[05:17] The tree analogy: nobody sees the roots
[08:13] The farmer and the goat in the well
[13:55] Walking into a Japanese classroom
[23:09] The lineage: Althea Gibson, Renee Powell, Avis Brown
[23:39] Skip's reveal: A Boy Named Skip
Notable Resources:
• Building of a Champion: How I Became a Champion in Life, The Avis Brown-Riley Story, on Amazon
• United States Golf Association Library and Museum, which holds her book
• Avis Brown-Riley Golf Extravaganza, her coaching and instruction business
• A Boy Named Skip, Skip Martin's film project, and his show at The Smith Center, Las Vegas
Connect with Avis Brown-Riley:
Website: https://abrgolf.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/avis.brownriley/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/avisbrownriley/
Connect with Skip Martin:
Website: https://www.skipmartinmusic.com/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/skipmartinmusic
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skipmartinmusic/
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/skipmartinmusic
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/skipmartinmusic
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