Show Notes
Economist and author Emily Oster joins Sam to ring in the New Year and talk about why so many people try to reset in January and if they believe in New Year’s resolutions. They unpack why some important people eat the same thing every day in order not to exert energy on unimportant decisions and why Emily has the same thing for breakfast and lunch every day (but gets to alternate between carrots and grapes). They talk about structured decision making, contentious co-sleeping with kids, and why parenting advice can be so controversial. They agree Canadians make decisions in a slightly different way, why the scientific community doesn’t do a good job explaining uncertainty, why people just want to be told what to do, and why everyone is asking Emily about Botox these days. Plus, the RFK Jr. of it all and why people are convinced that every moment is an opportunity to mess up. Keep up with Samantha Bee @realsambee on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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