Reclaiming Me: Heal Your Childhood Attachment Wounds, People Pleasing, and Complex PTSD for Women

E153: Burnout and Complex Trauma: When Working Harder Stops Working (with Luke Richardson)

Reclaiming Me: Heal Your Childhood Attachment Wounds, People Pleasing, and Complex PTSD for Women

Show Notes

What if the thing you keep trying to fix isn't a productivity problem at all? If you're a recovering people pleaser or perfectionist, you may have spent years reaching for one more strategy when something deeper was asking you to soften and listen. This week I'm turning the tables on my guest. Luke Richardson, host of Wave Work Stress Goodbye, had me on his show this summer, and I wanted to bring a male voice to this community. Luke was a striver his whole life, the "A for effort" kid who climbed the corporate ladder to project manager. Then in 2019 he hit a wall, and over the next few years he took two extended breaks from work before leaving that career in 2024. In our conversation, we talk about: Technical change (a problem with a known solution you can learn) versus adaptive change (uncomfortable, hard to name, and asking you to show up differently), a framework I borrowed from my own support group Luke's "badge of honor" fix of longer hours and weekend catch-up, and why it only added more pressure Why you can't always see the way out when you're white-knuckling, and why curiosity and a little safety have to come first How complex trauma and growing up depending on caregivers can make the workplace fertile ground for old survival patterns, and why it can feel unsafe to trust others, or yourself What men are often taught about stress and emotion, and why softening still takes firmness and a whole lot of self-compassion How I think about the inner protector and small, low-stakes steps toward speaking our truth

Imagine being able to catch yourself in the middle of a technical fix and wonder if something else is being asked of you. Luke offers a gentle way to start, with no big life overhaul required. Play with curiosity in everyday moments like the weather, a crowded commute, or loud kids in the next room, and notice whether the feeling is coming from out there or from in here. You'll leave with more hope, a new lens for your own stress, and permission to take it one small step at a time. Press play, and then try that small experiment this week. The next time you feel that heaviness or the urge to fix something, pause and get curious about where it's coming from. Then reach out and let me know what you notice. Connect with Luke Richardson Podcast: Wave Work Stress Goodbye, new episodes every Sunday. Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Instagram: @luke_richardson88

Email: [email protected] offers a free 30-minute clarity session for anyone who wants to talk through work stress. Reach out by email or DM him on Instagram to get started.

If this episode resonated, share it with someone who is running on empty, and leave a rating or review so more people can find this community.Connect with Cindy: Ready for deeper support? Take the free people-pleasing quiz, explore therapy or book a consultation here: cindypayne.com Instagram: @cindypaynerooted email: [email protected] This podcast supports women healing trauma, attachment wounds, codependency, anxiety, perfectionism, people pleasing, overthinking, and rebuilding self-worth, self-trust, boundaries, and confidence through trauma-informed guidance. Through honest, grounded conversations, it explores the real human experience of growth and leadership, the tension between purpose and rest, boundaries and connection, and how choosing awareness and compassion creates a more aligned and authentic life.

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