Unheard: True Crime in Their Own Words

Mark Geragos on Diddy, the Menendez Brothers & Defending America's Most Controversial Clients

Unheard: True Crime in Their Own Words

Show Notes

Mark Geragos has spent more than three decades at the center of some of the most high-profile and controversial legal battles in America. From Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, Winona Ryder, and Scott Peterson to Erik and Lyle Menendez, Geragos has represented clients whose names dominated headlines around the world. Most recently, he served as an advisor to Sean "Diddy" Combs' defense team during one of the most closely watched federal trials in recent memory. In this episode of Unheard: True Crime In Their Own Words, Justin sits down with one of America's most recognizable defense attorneys for a candid conversation about the justice system, celebrity defendants, media narratives, public perception, wrongful convictions, the Menendez brothers' fight for freedom, and the challenges of defending clients in the age of social media. Whether you agree with him or not, Mark Geragos has had a front-row seat to some of the biggest legal stories of our generation. Topics include: Sean "Diddy" Combs Erik & Lyle Menendez Michael Jackson Scott Peterson Celebrity trials Media influence on juries The court of public opinion High-profile criminal defense America's justice system

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