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Braden walks Dallas through a yellow-flag trademark search for New Era Coaching Academy and shows exactly how to weigh the risk of launching an offer before the trademark is finalized. Braden Drake is a California-licensed attorney and tax professional who works with creative small businesses and online business owners. He founded Not AVG Law and The Aisle Advisory, and he created programs like Contract Club and Unf*ck Your Biz. Dallas invited Braden on the show to finally face her own trademark uncertainty and bring listeners into the real process. Dallas brought her brand-new coaching program name to Braden, expecting a legal roadblock. Braden led her through a live trademark search, flagged what to watch for when a name is borderline, and explained how to plan for future business pivots. By the end, Dallas knew how to weigh the risk of launching New Era Coaching Academy before the trademark is finalized. Here's what Braden helped Dallas work through. Listen for the moment when Dallas admits she would be upset if someone trademarked her chosen offer name before she did, even though she thought she would be fine with a rebrand. Key Takeaways Trademark Decisions Are Not Binary: Trademark protection has gray areas. You can operate comfortably before registering while you test and evolve a new offer. Test How Distinctive Your Name Is: Distinctive or made-up words make the strongest trademarks. Most program names land somewhere between descriptive and suggestive, which affects your chances of registration. Weigh Your Attachment to the Name: Before you decide whether the risk of rebranding later is worth it, get honest about how attached you are to the name, emotionally and as a business. Know What Counts as Proof of Use: Proof of use is stricter than you might expect. Your screenshots need to show the offer name prominently, with a way to buy now. A waitlist page doesn't count. Register Trademarks Under Your Company: Braden recommends registering under your company instead of as an individual, for liability protection and to make a future sale easier. Timestamps & Key Topics [00:00] Dallas introduces Braden and the CrossFit-meets-lawyer backstory [03:23] Braden breaks down when to bother with trademark registration [05:05] Dallas names the fear of hiding behind trademark "research" [07:14] Braden explains what makes a name trademarkable: descriptive vs. distinctive [09:35] Braden shares personal experience registering different marks [13:03] Dallas realizes trademark protection doesn't have to be all-or-nothing [16:05] Braden runs a live USPTO search on New Era Coaching Academy [20:22] The AI search tool flags yellow, and Braden explains Dallas's options [24:22] Dallas and Braden discuss risk, attachment to the name, and ways to proceed [28:19] Braden explains how someone who registers after you can still box you out [29:09] Dallas details how her evolving program model affects trademark class choices [33:11] Braden explains "proof of use" and the waitlist pitfall [39:00] Dallas spotlights Braden's Contract Club for solo coaches needing contracts Considering a Trademark? Find out in minutes if your name is available to use at www.bradendrake.com/namescout Book a Trademark Quickie Search and have your name reviewed by a licensed attorney notavglaw.com/trademarks

Most actors second-guess themselves in auditions, but Geraldine wants a launch strategy that actually gets her new program for performers off the ground. Geraldine Rojas is a mindset and career coach for performers. She came to this session with a new collaboration, a new program, and a clear need: how do you fill those first crucial seats when your launch numbers are nowhere near your target? Geraldine and I mapped out a focused launch plan using personal outreach and targeted email strategy, no chasing thousands of leads, just deepening relationships with the warm audience she already has. We worked through her real worry: does direct outreach still matter, or is it too much for a small team? By the end, Geraldine walked away with a concrete action plan and a sense of relief about how to tackle both the two-day intensive and the eight-week program without burning herself out. Let me highlight the launch strategy Geraldine and I put together in this conversation. If you want to know how to handle the awkward silence after "Do you have any questions about the program?", you'll hear Geraldine's honest reaction and the exact script I suggest so you never get stuck in follow-up limbo. Key Takeaways Personal Outreach Still Works: Rather than defaulting to big email campaigns, start by contacting your warmest leads directly. It builds trust and often takes the same amount of time as writing mass emails. Clarify the Program Audience and Problem: Get specific about who your program is for and what problem it solves so your sales emails and outreach sound personal, not generic. Divide and Conquer with Your Co-Host: Geraldine and her collaborator split their lead list based on who has the stronger existing connection, making personal invitations feel more authentic and targeted. Match Email Strategy to Buyer Types: Craft sales emails for thinkers, feelers, followers, and list-makers so every type of buyer on your list hears in a way that speaks to them. Seed the Next Offer Inside Your Program: Mention the eight-week follow-up early and clearly during the two-day event. Set up expectations up front and use live calls to highlight what's possible. Timestamps & Key Topics [00:00] Dallas introduces Geraldine's coaching business and new collaboration challenge [03:01] Identify warm leads and discuss program audience [05:06] Clarify what performers struggle with and the result the program offers [07:11] Map out the funnel from free webinar to paid intensive to eight-week program [08:39] Stress the impact of one-to-one outreach vs. mass marketing [12:07] Geraldine and Dallas break down how to split and contact leads [13:46] Create voice memo invitations and handle unresponsive contacts [16:06] Provide scripts for hard "no" and non-responsive leads [20:06] Switch to broader email outreach and discuss messaging differences [21:30] Sequence emails for different buyer profiles [25:55] Plan for closing the cart and optimizing the launch window [30:14] Discuss limitations, priorities, and what not to add to the launch [31:13] Frame and pitch the eight-week program from inside the two-day event [36:00] Brainstorm meaningful incentives for fast action enrollment CONNECT WITH GERALDINE ROJAS: INSTAGRAM: @solifecoach WEBSITE: geraldinerojas.com

Dallas spent the last year circling the Instagram question: quit it or recommit. Turns out the real problem with her social media strategy was hiding underneath her resistance. Ash McDonald is a business therapist who believes ambition isn't something women ever need to apologize for. She helps high-achieving entrepreneurs navigate the psychology behind success, burnout, self-trust, and sustainable growth, and she's the host of the Shamelessly Ambitious podcast. Ash brings her honest, no BS approach to coaching as she sits in the expert’s chair and guides Dallas through an overdue conversation. Dallas built three six-figure businesses and knows every strategy in the book, but felt stuck between not quitting Instagram and not really using it. Ash helped Dallas see how full self-expression, emotional bandwidth, and a clear structure could make marketing feel joyful again. By the end, Dallas got the clarity and practical next step she needed: design a 60-day experiment to answer real questions about social media, instead of looping on an ill-defined yes or no. Here's what Ash helped Dallas work through. When Dallas names the real reason she avoids turning on her camera, Ash's response shows her the problem was never Instagram. Key Takeaways Indecision Is a Decision: Avoiding a choice keeps you “safe,” but you end up stuck in a frustrating loop that drains energy and clarity. Gathering real data through a time-bound experiment gives you enough data to decide. Self-Expression Matters in Social Media: When your content feels like busywork, you’re likely missing the spark of creative expression that drew you to coaching in the first place. A better question to ask yourself is "How can I share what feels true for me?" Capacity Has Two Layers: It’s easy to blame your calendar, but marketing that drains you often points to an emotional cost, like discomfort with visibility or aging. Track both your schedule and your feelings to avoid burnout and actually enjoy the process. Use Micro Experiments to Test Strategy: Committing to set experiments, like trying different content formats for a limited time, makes it easier to find your own answers rather than judging yourself for not following some externally imposed plan. Self-Compassion Is a Business Asset: Naming what feels vulnerable and treating yourself like you would your own daughter (or a client) lets you show up for both your business and your life in a way that actually feels sustainable. Timestamps & Key Topics [00:00] Dallas shares her Instagram struggle and introduces Ash McDonald [03:13] Ash frames the real issue behind indecision [07:18] Dallas names the all-or-nothing mindset behind her social media stall. [10:13] Real talk about aging, visibility, and emotional cost [13:33] Dallas describes “dance church” as a metaphor for living fully [17:32] Ash reframes social media as a creative stage [20:22] The experiment: how to test what actually works for you [26:11] Gathering evidence instead of just theorizing [31:08] Tracking data: closed loops, feedback, and feeling enlivened [36:07] How emotional bandwidth plays into burnout [41:33] Practical self-compassion as a business tool [44:22] The assignment: design a 60-day social media experiment [46:55] Micro experiments and redefining success criteria [49:05] Building self-trust in business decisions [50:12] Where to connect with Ash and wrap-up CONNECT WITH ASH MCDONALD: WEBSITE: https://ashmcdonaldmentoring.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/ashmcdonald/ Download The Soundcheck (https://ashmcdonaldmentoring.com/soundcheck) for 18 hand-picked podcast episodes designed to help ambitious women feel less exhausted, more confident, and more like themselves again.

Navigating how to sell coaching when your clients want external results but what you actually deliver is deep inner work is Arthur's biggest marketing challenge. Arthur Patton-Hock helps pre- and postdoctoral historians and humanist scholars create opportunities in and outside of academia. He came to this session wrestling with the gap between what his clients think they want (concrete job outcomes) and what truly makes the difference (how they relate to themselves and their materials). Arthur wondered how to talk about the tangible, “resume-building” side of coaching without overpromising or minimizing the critical mindset shifts his clients need. We walked through a real-world framework for rewriting your coaching offers and marketing so they appeal to results-driven clients—and still keep you honest. Arthur left with a litmus test for marketing that does both. Let me highlight what Arthur and I worked through in this conversation. We ran into a wall when Arthur described how scholars obsess over landing a job, but then panic if you talk about “inner steadiness.” Watch for how we built a messaging checklist that fits both mindsets, and track what happened when Arthur realized he was already offering practical outcomes, he just wasn’t naming them out loud. Key Takeaways Sell the Concrete Outcome (Honestly): Naming the tangible actions you do with clients (like reviewing CVs or mapping a networking plan) matters, but using language like “designed to” sets accurate expectations and keeps you in integrity as a coach. Make Inner Work Tangible: Connect the dots between mindset shifts and practical benefits. When you name how confidence and self-trust impact job applications, you turn an abstract promise into something clients will pay for. Use a Marketing Litmus Test: Every sales page, email, or post gets checked for three elements: a case for inner work, a clear tangible action, and a realistic intended outcome. This keeps your messaging honest and magnetic. Narrate Your Limits (and Why): Clients appreciate when you clearly state what you can’t promise up front. This transparency builds trust and sets you apart from competitors making wild guarantees. Tailor Your Content Formula: You can co-create content with AI, but always review it for specificity and add your story. A checklist helps you remember to translate mindset hacks into practical tips scholars actually value. Timestamps & Key Topics [00:00] Arthur outlines his work with historians and humanists [03:10] Arthur describes his two-track approach: tactics and strategy (mindset) [05:12] Dallas reframes why selling inner work is so hard [08:34] Naming promises vs. outcomes in a coaching offer [11:17] Dallas’s example from coaching actors with non-guaranteed outcomes [13:24] They analyze how to state the “goal” without overpromising [15:22] Arthur and Dallas outline the three-part messaging litmus test [18:07] Arthur discusses discomfort giving direct advice and accountability [20:04] Dallas shares tactical language for describing coaching benefits [22:17] Arthur tries his LinkedIn post using the new framework [24:10] They add tangible steps to mindset-focused content [25:55] Dallas assigns an action item: run all welcome emails through the checklist [27:14] Arthur recognizes he’s more concrete than he thought [30:11] Building prompts for AI-written content that cover all points [32:11] Arthur tests his new “what I do” statement out loud [35:38] They check the dream client power statement against the checklist [37:19] Arthur commits to updating his welcome email sequence and content formula [39:08] Dallas explains how “narration” filters out the wrong-fit clients CONNECT WITH ARTHUR PATTON-HOCK: WEBSITE: https://www.arthurpattonhock.com/ LINKEDIN: linkedin.com/in/arthur-patton-hock Get Arthur's weekly newsletter, "The Inner CV" at arthurpattonhock.com.

Megan wants to restructure her signature offer, but she’s stuck on how to package, price, and launch it so her neurodivergent coaching clients actually finish the journey. My guest is Megan Dowd, who helps enthusiastic overthinkers realign their business with the human behind it so they can understand their work deeply enough to stop overexplaining and firehosing potential clients out of a sale, without losing the nuance that makes their work unique. Megan came to The Hive after becoming a parent and navigating late-in-life ADHD diagnosis. Her goal was to reset her business model and find a sustainable way to serve clients who process differently. Megan came in with a strong vision for a multi-phase coaching framework, but struggled with how to chop it up into different offers, what to name each phase, and how to get clients from start to finish. I helped Megan untangle the pieces and together we designed a simple, streamlined signature program. One that lets her clients move at their own pace through foundational 1:1 work, group coaching, and into an ongoing membership, all while honoring her bandwidth and her audience. Most importantly, Megan walked away feeling clear and excited rather than overwhelmed by logistics and money worries. Let me highlight what Megan and I accomplished in this conversation. Ever wondered what to do when your signature system feels like too much for clients but you can’t see how to break it up? Pay attention to our back-and-forth about when to let the client defer joining a group cohort and why I advise against forcing multi-month commitments just to make your program “sticky.” Key Takeaways Phase Your Signature Program: Instead of juggling multiple offers, package your coaching system as a single program, divided into 1:1, group, and community phases. This helps both you and your clients stay focused on real progress without decision fatigue. Only Sell What Works For Everyone: When your method requires foundational work before clients are ready for group sessions, bundle those steps so everyone enters group work equipped and on the same page. Skipping this creates confusion and extra sales work for you. Let Clients Move at Their Pace: Build flexibility into your program by allowing clients to defer group participation or take self-guided steps during waiting periods, so they never feel rushed or left behind. Memberships Should Feel Optional, Not Trapping: Rather than locking people into minimum terms, make the ongoing membership opt-in after their core work is complete. Lower-priced, cancel-any-time models keep people longer and reduce friction. Client Support Needs Boundaries: Too much access to you can actually slow client growth. Instead, set frameworks for on-call support and be clear about when and how clients should use your expertise for copy tweaks and feedback. Timestamps & Key Topics [00:00] Dallas introduces Megan and her mission to help overthinkers [02:25] Megan shares why The Hive helps her manage ADHD and chronic pain [04:44] Discussion of motherhood, late ADHD diagnosis, and needing a business reset [05:55] Megan describes her five-step signature framework [10:07] Dallas breaks down each step for clarity and alignment [12:35] Megan shares the ideal way to deliver each phase (1:1, group, membership) [15:50] Discussing why the dream version feels unrealistic without an audience [18:20] Dallas pitches combining all phases into one signature program [23:05] Tackling Megan’s resistance to a single offer and pricing concerns [31:08] Dallas outlines a cohort model for group work with flexible entry [33:23] Megan refines the process: allow clients to defer group participation [36:40] They address how to move clients from group to community phase [41:27] Boundaries around on-call copy editing and support limits [46:40] Dallas coaches Megan on how too much support can backfire [49:35] Setting expectations for the final membership phase [50:23] Megan’s next steps: capacity mat