And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan

Ep. 266: Tinashe’s Guide to Making It on Your Own Terms

And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan

Show Notes

Today’s guest is a singer, songwriter, producer and dancer who has spent her career trusting her own instincts—and building a world around them. From “2 On” to “Nasty” and “No Broke Boys,” Tinashe has kept releasing music through major-label deals, independent projects and viral breakthroughs. She’s collaborated with artists including Calvin Harris, Charli xcx and Kaytranada, and joins us to talk about the journey behind it all.

And The Writer Is... Tinashe!

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CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 0:46 Tinashe and Ross reconnect—back to The Stunners 3:48 “Deep in the Night”—the song she wrote at five 5:08 Tinashe’s French fry rankings 6:12 Child acting, Whoopi Goldberg, and moving to LA 9:11 Life in a girl group without creative control 11:22 Buying a microphone and building a bedroom studio 14:10 Getting signed—and expecting it to be easy 18:40 Join the ATWI Patreon 19:32 Splice: Sounds and Variations 20:39 Early Travis Scott sessions and being taken seriously in the studio 23:29 Recording 200 songs—and trusting the big producer’s opinion26:33 Trusting your gut and knowing when to leave a session 30:43 “2 On” takes off. What happens after the first hit? 36:03 Writing “2 On” in a garage with friends 37:37 Does having a hit teach you how to make one? 39:20 Leaving her label and rebuilding trust in her own ideas 43:29 What releasing music independently actually takes 46:10 Filming her own videos and building her visual world 48:14 How dancing shapes the way she writes songs 50:08 Working with a label again—and finding Ricky Reed 52:11 Getting the call from Calvin Harris 53:52 Why genre doesn’t define her music 55:19 “Nasty” takes off after she stops needing another hit 57:04 Why she won’t write for a TikTok trend 58:43 Charli xcx and finding freedom after early hits 1:00:41 The unexpected remix journey of “No Broke Boys” 1:03:31 Taking the Grammy off her lock screen after seven years 1:05:14 Making POPSTAR—and giving herself time to play 1:05:55 Which POPSTAR song fits every mood? 1:08:19 Claiming the pop star she’s always been 1:13:32 “Just don’t stop”—keep putting your music out 1:14:42 Her advice to young women in music: intuition Credits Hosted by Ross Golan Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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