THE EXIT Podcast

Mark Macleod: Ex-Shopify CFO: The Exit Strategy Every Founder Should Hear

THE EXIT Podcast

Show Notes

What does it really take to sell your company for life-changing money? In this episode of THE EXIT, I sit down with Mark Macleod — former CFO of Shopify and FreshBooks, founder of SurePath Capital, and the coach behind over $1B in successful exits — to uncover the real truth behind the startup exit process.

We talk about:

- The biggest mistakes founders make during an exit - The psychology of selling your company (and what comes after) - Why most earn-outs are traps - How Marc built his post-exit life around mindfulness, purpose, and founder performance - Tactical advice on aligning with acquirers and investment bankers - Why your physical and mental health are the #1 growth tools as a founder

If you're building, scaling, or selling a venture-backed startup, this is the episode you can't afford to miss.

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Timestamps 00:00 Introduction of Mark Macleod 01:00 Mark's Background in Venture-Backed Startups 02:15 Yahoo Purchasing Facebook? 04:30 What Makes for a Successful Acquisition? 06:24 Why I Avoid Earnouts 07:55 Psychological Aspects of Selling a Company 09:55 Founder Burnout and Recovery Time 12:36 Importance of Being Present 13:20 Fitness and Mental Health for CEOs 20:00 The Role of Coaching in Startups 21:34 Operational Experience in Coaching 26:20 Two Things You Need to Succeed in Business 29:04 What Founders Get Wrong Pre-Exit 32:30 Should Founders Work With I-Bankers and When? 41:28 Avoiding Exit Landmines 48:24 Coaching and Providing Tough Feedback 49:44 Creating a Massive Business You Never Want to Exit

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