The End of Seeking Podcast

Episode 29: Breaking Free from Expectations

The End of Seeking Podcast

Show Notes

Welcome to episode 29 where we're exploring some obstacles on the path to spiritual awakening. How expectations can often cloud our perception of the obvious. We discuss how these expectations can lead us astray, causing us to bump into our own assumptions rather than see reality for what it is. We discuss how aiming for future attainment can be a strategy to avoid the present moment. We also explore the paths of the householder and the renunciate, observing that enlightenment is not reserved for those living a monastic lifestyle. In today's internet age, are there more awakened beings out there? With increased access to teachings and teachers and spiritual connections, it's a possibility we explore. We also dive into the cultural trappings surrounding spiritual traditions, separating the essential from the superfluous. We talk about the way intimate relationships can serve awakening. We discuss the power of mutual mirroring and how it can deepen our spiritual growth. We note that Self-inquiry isn't an intellect process. It uses the mind to transcend the mind. The 'answer' to the question "who am I" is experiential not intellectual. We explore the need to meet fear in the body and embrace the raw reality of truth, even when it challenges our beliefs. And so courage and curiosity is required on the path of spiritual exploration. Enjoy. For those who’d like to listen on their preferred podcast platform: Youtube Apple Spotify Google Podcast Imogen’s website - beyondimogen.com Martyn’s website - martynwebber.com

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