The Deep View: Conversations

How AI could reshape human memory and attention

The Deep View: Conversations

Show Notes

AI could change the way we remember, and the way we pay attention.

In this episode of The Deep View: Conversations, Editor-in-Chief Jason Hiner sits down with Bobak Tavangar, CEO of Brilliant Labs, one of the most intriguing startups in AI hardware today. While trillion-dollar giants like Meta and Google race to define the future of AI glasses, Brilliant Labs is taking a radically different path: building in public, going open-source with both software and hardware, and centering their next product, the Halo glasses, around something deeply human. The focus? A conversational AI agent for your long-term memories and conversations. This isn’t just about smarter wearables. It’s about a bigger idea:

+ Can AI help us be more present, not less? + Could technology support memory, reflection, and intention instead of distraction? + What does privacy look like when AI can recall your life? Jason and Bobak also explore: + What he learned during his time at Apple + Why AI hardware is one of the hardest frontiers in tech + The challenging process of finding a co-founder + Bobak’s philosophy on communicating on social media with purpose, not hype Bobak is one of the most thoughtful founders in the AI space, consistently elevating the conversation beyond features and into questions of values, agency, and human experience. If you care about where AI, wearables, memory, and attention intersect, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss. Subscribe to the podcast for more unique conversations with the brightest minds solving the biggest challenges in AI. And don't miss The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI — we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights that keep our audience ahead of the curve and help them put AI to work every day: https://subscribe.thedeepview.com/

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