The Third Turn

What Can Third Turn Surprises Look Like?

The Third Turn

Show Notes

Our guest Donna Schumell—a Third Turn leader and partner in the firm The Disruptive Element--shares her very serendipitous career journey as well as the surprising shifts that have marked her own Third Turn in leadership. Her story invites us all to consider how to make space for serendipity and surprises in context of an otherwise planful and intentional Third Turn of leadership.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

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