
Show Notes
In this first installment of Margin Notes—a new series on the big decisions writers face—we explore a question many writers quietly carry: When life falls apart, do you keep writing… or step away? Jennie Nash is joined by clinical psychologist Dr. Diana Hill, author of Wise Effort, for a conversation about grief, illness, recovery and the psychology of returning to your work. Dr. Hill will help us explore the emotional and cognitive side of a creative life. Together, we discuss: * Why “little by little becomes a lot” matters in recovery * How grief, illness, addiction, or heartbreak reshape your creative capacity * The two common paths writers take: stepping away vs. writing to survive * What negativity bias is—and why it gets louder during hard seasons * When writing supports healing—and when it becomes avoidance At the heart of this conversation is a simple idea: You don’t have to return to writing all at once.Sometimes, getting to the “mailbox and back” is enough. Whether you’re navigating loss or a major life transition, this episode offers a compassionate way back to the page—on your own terms. Books Mentioned * Wise Effort by Dr. Diana Hill * Little by Little Becomes a Lot by Eric Zimmer
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Transcript (00:00:03): Hi, (00:00:04): I’m Jenny Nash, (00:00:05): and you’re listening to the Hashtag AmWriting Podcast, (00:00:08): the place where we help writers of all kinds play big in your writing life, (00:00:12): love the process, (00:00:13): and stick with it long enough to finish what matters most. (00:00:17): This is Margin Notes, (00:00:19): a new part of the podcast where we’re talking about the big decisions writers face (00:00:23): in their work on creative lives. (00:00:25): I’m here today to talk about (00:00:28): this idea of recovery from illness or a breakup or a major life transition and how (00:00:34): you get back to your work. (00:00:36): And I have with me the most of special guests, (00:00:40): uh, (00:00:40): Dr. (00:00:40): Diana Hill, (00:00:41): who is my friend and my client and my colleague. (00:00:45): She’s a clinical psychologist. (00:00:47): Who’s the author of wise effort, how to focus your genius energy on what matters most. (00:00:52): And she’s going to help us dig into this. (00:00:55): Welcome Diana. Diana (00:00:57): I am so glad to be here. Diana (00:00:58): And another form of recovery, recovery from addiction is another one. Diana (00:01:02): Like if people are prioritizing their health and recovery in that way, Diana (00:01:07): how do you write through that? Diana (00:01:09): So I’m super excited to talk with you because I think I’ve been through every Diana (00:01:11): single one of those recoveries in some form or another. (00:01:15): Well, yeah. (00:01:16): And we don’t have to get into it, but you have recently been through some big grief. (00:01:21): You’ve been through all these things in your life. (00:01:23): So how do you counsel somebody who’s trying to get over something or get through (00:01:28): something and also doesn’t want to abandon their writing? Diana (00:01:33): Well, there’s a great book that’s coming out. Diana (00:01:36): We have to mention a book, support our fellow writers by Eric Zimmer. Diana (00:01:40): And I always pick books by their titles in some form or another. Diana (00:01:44): And so there’s a great, how about this? Diana (00:01:46): There’s a great book title coming out, which is Little by Little. Diana (00:01:49): becomes a lot. Diana (00:01:51): And I think that’s something to remember in recovery. Diana (00:01:54): I remember after I had a C-section, Diana (00:01:57): I had two C-sections with my kids and the little by little was, Diana (00:02:01): you know, Diana (00:02:01): first you make it up to the mailbox and back, Diana (00:02:04): right? Diana (00:02:05): You’re trying to get back to that three mile walk that
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