
Show Notes
In this episode of the Mo Money podcast, we talked to Deanna Messina, who's the Deputy Chief Economist at AMP. She's got a bunch of experience with financial markets, and spends most of her days crunching data on inflation, interest rates, what's going on in the property market and the share market as well. So we get Diana to get her crystal ball out some predictions around what's happening in the property market, what's potentially going to happen in the share market, as well as what might happen with the upcoming federal budget. This episode is perfect for anyone that wants to understand what's driving what's actually going on with their money.
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