The Story of Money

Co-creators Mickey Down & Konrad Kay on ‘Industry’

The Story of Money

Show Notes

This week Michela and the FT’s US banking editor, Joshua Franklin, interview the co-creators of the hit television show, Industry. In its fourth season, the show follows the lives of ambitious young people making their way in London's financial centre. The season finale aired earlier this week, and in this episode, Michela and Joshua discuss with the creators, Mickey Down and Konrad Kay, the overlap between their show's storylines and real world finance.

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For further reading: The ONS vs Industry How I won a starring role — OK, bit part — in HBO’s ‘Industry’ Inside Wirecard

For further listening: How Wirecard’s Jan Marsalek went from fraudster to spy HBO’s 'Industry', and Esther Perel

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