Collaboration in an Outcome-Based World: Insights from Tim Sanders
Expert Intelligence with Paul EstesShow Notes
Collaboration is essential for the success of all businesses. Companies are more likely to succeed with a collaborative culture; therefore, business owners need to collaborate with talent to grow their company and preserve their resources. Gig models are a great way for businesses to work with freelancers and contractors without the hassle of finding and managing employees. They are also more cost-effective in the long run. Join this conversation with Tim Sanders and learn more about the future of an outcome-based world where entrepreneurs will only hire on demand. Learn more about the importance and types of collaboration. As a former Yahoo chief solutions officer and best-selling author, Tim Sanders is one of the top-rated leadership keynote speakers on the lecture circuit. His keynotes at conferences and corporate meetings offer actionable insights into leadership development, sales, collaboration, and corporate culture. He’s passionate about motivating audiences to move to action. Tim’s mission is twofold: lead professionals to deepen all their relationships through the generosity and expand their collaborative webs to solve their toughest challenges.
Tune in! What You Will Learn: [00:01] Quick bio of today’s guest, Tim Sanders [01:06] What inspired Tim to write his book, Love is the Killer App [05:50] Correlation between what you study and your income [07:02] Common talk that Tim has heard from people off stage [07:58] Why human service will be obsolete by 2050 [10:07] The one problem companies can solve through gig platforms [13:42] Importance and types of collaboration in a company [16:08] Distributed collaboration [18:49] Tim’s takeaway on collaboration [21:37] Disruptive collaboration [25:16] Protect and nurture your ideas [28:38] The power of curiosity [30:57] Damn collaboration [33:22] The future of outcome-based world [35:14] Working with a freelancer
Standout Quotes: “Be a student, and when you learn something, become a teacher.” - Tim Sanders [02:43] “There’s always a correlation between what you read and your income.”-Tim Sanders [05:50] “If you study Tony Robbins and what turned his life around, it was one year in an apartment in San Diego, where he literally read 500 books. If you study Mark Cuban’s life, his turnaround was two years when he read about 80 books a year to master his space.”- Tim Sanders [05:58] “Millenials don’t think or care about talent. They care about delivering work.”- Tim Sanders [07:29] “Gig economy is the future of doing business. For digital natives, that could be the only way to get the services you are looking for.”-Host [11:56] “All innovations come from four distinct personalities.”-Tim [18:04] “Big ideas show up as ugly babies, and it’s your job as a leader to protect them so that they eventually get cute.”-Tim [25:38] “If you approach everything from curiosity… then you start to learn.”-Host [28:38] Resources Mentioned Tim’s Book, Love is the Killer App: https://www.amazon.com/Love-Killer-App-Business-Influence/dp/1400046831. Rework by Jason Fried: https://www.amazon.com/Rework-Jason-Fried/dp/0307463745 Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration by Ed Catmull: https://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Inc-Overcoming-Unseen-Inspiration/dp/0812993012 Competing in the Age of AI: Strategy and Leadership When Algorithms and Networks Run the World by Marco Iansiti: https://www.amazon.com/Competing-Age-AI-Leadership-Algorithms/dp/1633697622/.
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