Have A Nice Future | WIRED

Learning to Let Go (of the Wheel)

Have A Nice Future | WIRED

Show Notes

Gideon Lichfield and Lauren Goode talk to Chris Urmson, CEO of the self-driving truck company Aurora. They discuss new legislation in California that could help or hinder a driverless future, whether or not self-driving vehicles are actually safer and the consequences for the transportation industry if (human) truck drivers become unnecessary.

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