
Show Notes
Will AI actually take over every job ever? Economist Ben Jones doesn't think so. Drawing from historical evidence around innovation, Jones argues that automation never conquers everything — it inevitably creates operational bottlenecks that only humans can solve. By leaning into these bottlenecks, we can protect meaningful, well-paid work. But his optimism comes with a stark caveat: there is one nightmare scenario where this historical pattern breaks down entirely. And it doesn’t involve superintelligence. It involves mediocre AI.
Life, Automated is a production of the Ryan Institute on Complexity, at Northwestern’s Kellogg School. The host is Jess Love, senior director. Distribution by KQED.
Senior Producer: Jesse Dukes
Additional Production and music: Steven Jackson
Administrative and editorial support: Stacia Sliger
Thanks to Laura Pavin, Jen Chien, and Alexandra Salomon.
Additional music for this episode from
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Moby Gratis
Neutral Propulsion Laboratory
Ben Jones recent article, How AI Could Benefit Workers, Even If It Displaces Most Jobs.
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