Summary
Thomas Jones and Tom McCarthy delve into James Joyce's "Ulysses," exploring its complex narrative structure and thematic depth. They highlight the novel's setting in Dublin on June 16, 1904, and its division into 18 episodes, each corresponding to elements of Homer's "Odyssey." The discussion emphasizes Joyce's innovative use of language, particularly the concept of "exterior consciousness," which challenges traditional notions of interior monologue.
The hosts examine the interplay between the mundane and the epic within "Ulysses," noting how seemingly trivial events—such as two men walking through Dublin—are layered with profound significance. They argue that the novel's richness lies not in its plot but in its intricate web of associations and metaphors, which reflect broader themes of identity, memory, and the human experience. The conversation also touches on the novel's humor and its ability to engage readers actively, inviting them to relish the language and the sensory details of life depicted within its pages.
Show Notes
Tom McCarthy, writing in the LRB, described James Joyce's Ulysses as a ‘heavy book, a book full of weight, a fallen book’; a ‘properly obscene book’; ‘a book in which the central stake is the coming into being of the book itself’; a book for which ‘people should desist, once and for all, from using the term “interior monologue” to describe the novel’s outbreaks of unassigned first-person narrative. This is not interior monologue: it’s exterior consciousness, embodied (or encorpsed) consciousness that has ruptured the membrane of conventional syntax.’ In this episode, Toms McCarthy and Jones discuss all that and more, including why Ulysses is both a ‘book to be read with relish’ and a ‘monumental event in the development of human consciousness’.
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