Show Notes
Andy sent Derek a text at 1:00am about our modern desire to look backward at life. It led them to talk about the Holy Land, cathedrals, whiskey, and the tension in modern youth ministry. Be sure to grab Andy's brand new book - The Church After Innovation - out now. Get your copy on Amazon today along with all of Andy's other books. Special thanks to Baker Publishing for sponsoring our podcast.
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