The Nature of Nurture

I Wasn’t Raised to Use My Voice: Surviving Narcissistic Abuse and Why I’m Finally Telling My Story

The Nature of Nurture

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In this deeply personal solo episode of The Nature of Nurture, Leslie opens up about her own life story for the first time in the podcast’s five-season history. Reflecting on her work as a clinical psychologist and host of the show, Leslie explains why she felt compelled to “unmask” and share the experiences that shaped both her healing journey and the perspective behind the podcast itself. Leslie begins by introducing herself beyond the professional bio—sharing her background, her career in psychology, and the core mission of The Nature of Nurture: understanding the human condition through the lens of context. From trauma and family systems to culture, technology, and lived experience, she explores how the environments we grow up in shape who we become. The heart of the episode centers on Leslie’s experience surviving childhood emotional and psychological abuse within a toxic family system. Without focusing on graphic details, she speaks candidly about growing up in an environment where self-expression and self-advocacy were discouraged, and how reclaiming her voice became a central part of her healing process. Throughout the conversation, Leslie reflects on the intergenerational transmission of trauma and the ways unresolved wounds can echo through families over time. Drawing from both her personal experience and years of clinical practice, she discusses the emotional complexity of healing—particularly the balance between accountability, compassion, anger, and forgiveness. Leslie also shares how modalities beyond traditional psychotherapy—including breathwork, nervous system regulation, and neuro-linguistic programming—played an important role in helping her process and integrate childhood trauma. She explains that many previous episodes of the podcast were, in some ways, reflections of her own healing journey. A major theme of the episode is the idea that survival alone is not the endpoint of recovery. Leslie speaks about what it means not only to heal from trauma, but to transform because of it—framing her ability to speak openly today as an act of liberation against the silence she was raised within. The episode also explores Leslie’s spiritual beliefs surrounding consciousness, forgiveness, and the soul’s evolution. Discussing concepts like the Akashic Records and life lessons carried through relationships, she offers a nuanced perspective on forgiveness—emphasizing that forgiveness does not require reconnection, and that healthy healing often involves maintaining strong boundaries. Ultimately, this episode is a message of solidarity for anyone who has struggled to reclaim their voice after trauma. Leslie closes by reminding listeners that healing is possible, that their experiences are real, and that they are not alone in the process. Whether you’re navigating your own recovery journey, interested in trauma psychology, or simply looking for a more honest conversation about healing and identity, this episode offers vulnerability, insight, and hope. Host Dr. Leslie Carr is a psychologist, educator, and host of The Nature of Nurture. Her work explores the intersections of psychology, culture, trauma, healing, and human development. Resources & Links The Nature of Nurture TheNatureofNurture.com Prior Episodes Mentioned: S2 Ep 4, Interview with Michelle Masters “How Our Beliefs Shape Our Experience” (NLP/audio only): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/interview-with-michelle-masters-how-our-beliefs-shape/id1561379347?i=1000553917982 S4 Ep 8, Exploring the Akashic Records with Helen Vonderheide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHKpq-M0NY S4 Ep 9, The Intersection of Mental Health and the Nervous System with Rachel Hardy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6ieycpevH0&t=28s S4 Ep 10, Exploring Breathwork's Healing Potential with Robert Bahedry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGRnKDpLnqU&t=1s S1 Ep 1, Beyond Biology (not explicitly mentioned but if you want to learn more about Leslie’s attitudes and beliefs about “mainstream”

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