Ep. - 1736 - ST. ELMO'S FIRE: THE TRUE STORY BEHIND THE BRAT PACK CLASSIC (PART ONE)

Angelo Pizzo, the screenwriter of Hoosiers and Rudy, returns for part two of a conversation about two of the greatest sports films ever made. Angelo reveals the movie star who first agreed to play Coach Norman Dale, and the unlikely producer who cried through the script and finally paid for the film after a year and a half of rejections. He also opens up about working with Gene Hackman, who arrived on set convinced Hoosiers would end his career. He discusses the half hour that had to be cut from the film, how Jerry Goldsmith came to score both movies for almost nothing, and why Rudy’s theme became one of the most recognizable pieces of music in sports. Angelo also shares the casting of Sean Astin, Ned Beatty and Jon Favreau, how Bob Knight inspired Norman Dale, and the story behind his newest and most personal film, Bloomington.

Chris DeRosa joins Kate to discuss episodes 6-8 of Netflix’s Love Is Blind: Boston, breaking down the vacations, realizing their fiancé may be a hoarder, and meeting their potential new in-laws.

They were Miami royalty: twins Oren and Alon Alexander and their older brother Tal, sons of Israeli immigrants who built a security empire, became the most famous luxury real estate brokers in the country, and Oren’s wedding was even featured in Vogue. Behind the private jets and Hamptons parties, prosecutors say, they lured, drugged, and raped women for more than a decade, and in March 2026 a federal jury found all three guilty on every count. Director Emma Schwartz returns to discuss her Peacock docuseries The Wolves of Real Estate: The Alexander Brothers, which she filmed in real time as the case unfolded.

In November 2017, 24-year-old Sydney Loofe left work in Lincoln, Nebraska, for a second date with a woman she’d met on Tinder. She never came home. The woman she knew as “Audrey” was Bailey Boswell, who lived with her boyfriend, 51-year-old Aubrey Trail, a longtime con man. The investigation that followed uncovered a gold coin fraud scheme, a pattern of control over other young women, and Aubrey’s claims of supernatural powers.

Producer Aliza Rosen joins Kate to discuss You Can See Everything, the documentary from Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim that follows Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes and her partner, Billy Evans, in the weeks before she reports to prison. They also discuss Aliza’s new investigative podcast, The Gilded Rage, hosted by Lauren Malloy. The series begins with a woman’s allegation of a decades-old sexual assault and leads to unanswered questions surrounding the 1985 death of Sherri Clark, an 18-year-old University of Colorado Boulder freshman whose death was ruled an accident. Aliza explains how the investigation came together and why Sherri’s family continues to seek answers more than 40 years later.