The Superintelligence Podcast

Europe’s AI Sovereignty Problem | PandaOS Co-Founders

The Superintelligence Podcast

Show Notes

Does running an American AI model in a European data center make it sovereign? PandaOS co-founders Philipp Türker and Marco Szeidenleder join Kim Isenberg and Peter Thum on The Superintelligence Podcast to discuss who controls the models, data and infrastructure.

They explain how local inference, self-hosting and the ability to switch providers can give users more control. The conversation also covers smaller specialized models, Europe’s AI ecosystem, the AI Act and PandaOS’s approach to a local AI workspace.

More interviews and the Superintelligence newsletter: https://getsuperintel.com Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Superintel-daily

More from The Superintelligence Podcast

Oct 20, 2026

What does it take to put a robot to work on the outside of a skyscraper?

Oct 8, 2026

Kim Isenberg and Peter Thum sit down with Hume AI’s Andrew Ettinger and Olya Ossipova to explore voice AI, emotion, and the challenge of measuring how well a model listens.

Oct 2, 2026

Google VP of Engineering Dr. Wieland Holfelder joins Kim Isenberg on The Superintelligence Podcast to discuss sovereign AI in Europe and security when AI agents can act inside organizations.

Sep 2, 2026

Can an AI video model understand physics, or does it just produce convincing images? LTX co-founder and CTO Yaron Inger joins Kim Isenberg and Peter Thum on The Superintelligence Podcast to discuss LTX-2.5.

Aug 27, 2026

How do you choose an AI model for a product people rely on? DataCamp co-founder and CEO Jonathan Cornelissen and Chief AI Officer Yusuf Saber join Kim Isenberg and Peter Thum on The Superintelligence Podcast to discuss AI in education.

See all episodes →