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His Last Words Before Mariupol Fell | Marine Nick Laidlaw on Ukraine

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Show Notes

Nick Laidlaw enlisted in the Marine Corps to go to war. The war never came for him. So he spent the years after collecting other men's: over 1,100 first-hand accounts from more than 20 armies, both sides of nearly every war since 1939, including a Taliban fighter who later apologized to him.

Then he stopped collecting from a distance and went himself. In 2022 he was talking into encircled Mariupol over Starlink, interviewing a 22-year-old Azov soldier named Anton "Pazman" Krill almost every day until Anton was killed. Nick holds his last words: "When we are relieved from here I will immediately marry my girlfriend and everything will be Ukraine." Two and a half years later, a man Nick was certain had died in Russian captivity messaged him. They met in a tea shop: "Thank you for giving me Anton back."

In 2025 he rode into Pokrovsk at one in the morning in a soft-skin pickup, after a brigade deputy commander told him it was 50-50 he'd be hit going in or coming out. He went. Seven hours: the wound that started it, and the work that came out of it.

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CHAPTERS 0:00:00 Cold open 0:04:04 Eight months in the making 0:09:51 Adopted at birth, and the half of his life he knew nothing about 0:19:21 He found his biological family in six days 0:37:13 Growing up on the GWOT, and why the Marine Corps 0:47:10 Boot camp, SOI, and FAST company 0:58:07 He enlisted to have his metal tested. The war never came. 1:03:43 Getting out, and the transition nobody prepares you for 1:08:29 A Glock in the car door, and the song that stopped him 1:16:02 Battles and Beers begins 1:28:06 Kabul falls, and the people he tried to get out 1:39:14 "You are the target audience" - how propaganda really works 1:46:32 He interviewed a member of the Taliban 2:03:43 Maidan, Crimea and the Donbas: how this war started 2:27:14 What Azov actually is 2:33:02 Russia's justification, and what he says is the truth 2:53:22 Into encircled Mariupol on Starlink 2:59:01 Anton "Pazman" Krill, 22 years old 3:15:52 Standing at Anton's memorial wall with his brother 3:26:36 "What right do you have to take these stories?" 3:30:37 Bucha, from a man who lived through it 3:40:26 The Coke can in the Walmart parking lot 3:56:27 Artillery down the road. The waiter offered a refill. 4:08:51 Why he calls himself a coward 4:13:02 Ukraine's prison-release soldiers 4:41:13 The third trip: full access with the 25th Airborne 5:01:56 How an FPV strike actually happens 5:03:29 Mercy kills, and the wounded nobody comes for 5:15:14 Pokrovsk: 110,000 Russians 5:17:33 Hearing became survival 5:30:47 A mine went off next door 5:40:17 He strained drinking water through his underwear 5:58:01 The truck he was supposed to be in 6:00:29 From atheist to something else 6:27:23 American aid to Ukraine 6:52:20 What years of this has done to him 6:59:01 Close

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