Millions Were Made

#45 – How to Build a High-Performing Team: Leadership Development, Smart Hiring & Culture-Driven Growth with Makena Finger Zannini and Jen Dillard

Millions Were Made

Show Notes

Struggling to find the right people—or to keep the good ones? You’re not alone. In this episode of Millions Were Made, Jessica Marx sits down with Jen Dillard and Makena Finger Zannini, Co-Founders of Brick by Brick Collective, to share their proven systems for building high-performing teams, designing performance-based compensation, and leading with clarity. Whether you're hiring your first employee or scaling a team of 50+, you’ll learn how to write effective job descriptions, create an onboarding process that drives results in the first 90 days, and implement leadership development strategies that boost retention and revenue. They also reveal their approach to incentive compensation plans, how to conduct value-aligned interviews, and what every founder needs to know before making their next hire. If you're a small business owner or CEO scaling to 7 or 8 figures, this conversation is your playbook for building a motivated team, creating an intentional culture, and leading like a visionary. Highlights: (01:00) Why most small business owners overlook leadership development (02:06) Scaling from solopreneur to 100+ team members (03:42) Hiring support without compromising profit margins (04:36) Why you must set high hiring standards early (06:44) The power of performance-based compensation plans (07:55) Stop writing job descriptions that combine 4 different roles (08:38) Corporate experience vs. small business agility (09:45) How to improve your interview process with test projects (11:45) Screening for emotional intelligence in sales roles (13:10) A proven 90-day onboarding process for employee success (16:01) Why new hires don’t magically fix your business (17:25) Leveraging feedback from fresh team members (18:39) Creative incentive plans that increase employee motivation (22:39) Building a strong company culture—remote or in-person (24:24) Handling low team morale or underperformance (25:17) How to have tough conversations without fear or guilt (29:18) Making data-driven decisions when managing people (30:44) How personal wealth creates freedom and legacy impact Connect with Jessica: Instagram: @millionsweremade | @thejessicamarx Work with Jessica: Tailored Premier Website: Millions Were Made Connect with Jen & Makena: Website https://www.brickbybrickcollective.com/ Connect with Jen and Makena on Instagram: @jendillard and @makenafz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilarythecfp/

More from Millions Were Made

Oct 14, 2026

In this episode of Millions Were Made, Jessica Marx and Brooke Dumas discuss why founders should begin planning for the coming year well before January and how early strategic planning can create stronger financial and operational visibility. Following their private client retreat in San Diego, they share how founders can use Q4 to evaluate business performance, secure future revenue, refine offers, and establish clear priorities for the year ahead. Jessica also explains why these decisions should be guided by data rather than emotion, particularly when revenue slows or growth begins to plateau.

Sep 30, 2026

In this episode of Millions Were Made, Jessica Marx and Brooke Dumas explore how founders can increase the long-term value of their businesses by building sellable verticals. Many businesses unintentionally combine multiple services, offers, and revenue streams into one structure, making it difficult to scale efficiently, market clearly, or create future acquisition opportunities. Jessica breaks down how separating key areas of a business—from service divisions to intellectual property—can improve profitability, operational clarity, and overall enterprise value. Using real client examples, they discuss how strategic restructuring can help founders create cleaner financials, stronger brand positioning, and more flexibility when it comes to future growth or potential exits. They also unpack common mistakes businesses make when layering new offers into existing brands without a clear operational strategy. Together, they discuss: What sellable verticals are and why they matter How separate business divisions create acquisition opportunities The importance of clean financial tracking and operational structure Why branding and marketing clarity improve conversions Common mistakes founders make when combining multiple offers When it makes sense to create separate entities or brands How intellectual property and licensing increase company value Why founders should think strategically about AI and future scalability

Sep 16, 2026

In this episode of Millions Were Made, Jessica Marx sits down with sales strategist and founder of The Salesgirls, Macy McNeely, for a practical and insightful conversation about the hidden sales gaps that prevent businesses from scaling sustainably. Many founders believe inconsistent revenue is a marketing problem, a lead generation issue, or a systems breakdown. But according to Macy, the deeper challenge is often much more foundational: most entrepreneurs have never intentionally learned how to sell. Instead, they rely on momentum, passion, referrals, or strong offers—until growth plateaus and the existing approach no longer works. Throughout the episode, Macy explains the difference between simply making sales and truly understanding sales psychology, persuasion, buyer behavior, and messaging. She shares why many multi-six and multi-seven-figure business owners continue to leave significant revenue on the table despite having established audiences, successful launches, and experienced teams. Jessica and Macy also discuss how modern sales environments have shifted. Buyers are more skeptical, more discerning, and more resistant to vague messaging and overly complicated funnels. As a result, businesses must become more precise in how they communicate value, build trust, and guide prospects through the buying process. Macy also shares real examples from her own business, including how a highly targeted 23-minute sales message generated nearly $300,000 in revenue by directly addressing the specific resistance buyers were experiencing in real time. This episode offers a clear and actionable perspective for founders looking to improve conversions, strengthen their sales process, and scale their business with greater clarity and confidence. Listen now!

Sep 2, 2026

In this episode of Millions Were Made, Jessica Marx and Brooke Dumas break down one of the most important skills founders must develop: knowing when to take business advice—and when not to. With endless podcasts, masterminds, social media content, and business opinions available today, many entrepreneurs find themselves overwhelmed by conflicting strategies and constantly chasing solutions that may not actually apply to their business. Jessica explains why generalized advice often leads founders into expensive detours, reactive decision-making, and operational inefficiencies. Together, they discuss the importance of understanding your company’s data, analytics, profitability, customer behavior, and operational structure before implementing new strategies. They also explore why successful founders learn how to think critically about their business instead of blindly copying what worked for someone else. Jessica shares practical insight into scaling responsibly, avoiding common hiring and growth mistakes, using AI strategically, and identifying when expert guidance is actually worth the investment. Together, they discuss: Why generalized business advice often fails The dangers of “copy-and-paste” entrepreneurship How to evaluate whether advice applies to your business The importance of data-driven decision-making Why founders need to understand their numbers and operations Common scaling and hiring mistakes The difference between thinking strategically vs. “thinking bigger” Practical ways to self-audit your business Smart ways to use AI without relying on it for strategy Why targeted expert advice often creates better results than endless masterminds

Aug 19, 2026

In this episode of Millions Were Made, Jessica Marx and Brooke Dumas explore a critical shift impacting nearly every business today: evolving buyer psychology. While many founders continue to operate using strategies that were effective in the past, today’s buyers are making decisions differently. This conversation breaks down the key factors behind that shift—from post-2020 economic cycles and inflation to the rise of social media selling and the resulting erosion of trust in the marketplace. Jessica provides a clear and grounded perspective on what has changed and why sales cycles are now longer, more complex, and more relationship-driven. Buyers are no longer making quick, impulse decisions. Instead, they are more cautious, more informed, and more intentional about where they invest their time and money. At the same time, businesses themselves have also evolved—becoming more selective about the clients they work with and placing greater emphasis on alignment, readiness, and long-term fit. Together, they discuss: The economic and behavioral shifts that reshaped buyer decision-making Why trust has become one of the most important factors in sales How the rise of online selling contributed to buyer skepticism The reality of longer, more deliberate sales cycles The importance of lead nurturing and consistent follow-up Why responsiveness and urgency still play a critical role in conversion How to approach sales conversations without appearing transactional Common gaps in messaging, positioning, and overall sales process Why “price objections” often reflect deeper value or clarity issues

See all episodes →