The Autistic VOICE Project

Episode 32: Discipline, Dysregulation, and Why Punishment Doesn’t Work

The Autistic VOICE Project

Show Notes

This week is a mailbag episode, and Erin and Matt take on two common questions from allistic listeners that come up constantly in real life. Both questions sound simple. Neither one is. Episode highlights: If ABA is harmful, does that mean all discipline or behaviorism is bad — and what discipline is actually for Why punishment fails to teach, and how it damages trust, learning, and regulation The difference between misbehavior driven by dysregulation vs. misunderstanding Why discipline should mean teaching, modeling, and guiding — not control or compliance Why Autistic people can be deeply literal and deeply sarcastic (aka snarkolepsy), and why that confuses people so much Also: this episode includes refrigerator magnets, cuckoo clocks, air fryers, AIC buttons for dogs, Amelia Bedelia logic, Hannah Gadsby wondering how she a box, and a penguin are related, Back to the Future, and a very firm rejection of authoritarian parenting. Matt and Erin don’t get to the rest of the mailbag — including PDA — because these two questions needed the space they took. And honestly, that’s kind of the point.

Note from Erin: If you're interested in getting started on AIC buttons with your animals, I highly recommend checking out Fluent.pet and HungerForWords.com. They have lots of great info and free resources, even if you don't buy their buttons. Some of my favorite button-pushers to watch: Elsie at Elsie wants... (Human: Mary Robinette Kowal who is an incredible human all-around, but also happens to be a Hugo Award-winning author, celebrated narrator, and professional puppeteer) Twiggy, Odin and Freya at Twiggy and her Cat Cat Friends (Human: Janine Marie Skunk, talking about how she got started here) Bunny at What About Bunny (Human: Alexis Devine, who is also one of our Autistic neurokin! She tells her story and Bunny's in the book, I Am Bunny) And, we can't forget the O.G. of interspecies button learning - Stella at Hunger4Words (Human: Christina Hunger, the speech and language pathologist who first noticed the similarities between her puppy and the pre-language toddlers she was working with. You can learn more about Stella's learning process in the book How Stella Learned to Talk)

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