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Listen now | Recording of AURA - Tim Frazer & Shane Gibson on 7th October 2026

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Show Notes

Raw and unedited Top 3 things:

Evaluating new technology:Shane and Tim discussed starting with a real use case, making small bets, checking risk tolerance, and planning how to replace a tool if its vendor changes course.

Classification with Jive/Jev:Tim described using Gemini to extract image metadata, then Jive/Jev to make structured classification decisions at scale.

Where data and BI are heading:They covered the OSI metrics standard, DuckDB and MotherDuck, and whether simpler, “disposable” BI apps will take off.

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