What does it take to achieve an Inclusive Curriculum?
Between Two Psychs with Dr Adam McCartney and Mike LaneShow Notes
In this episode, we unpack the Department for Education’s latest push on inclusion and ask a big question… is this the turning point schools have been waiting for or another ambitious idea that may struggle in reality? The conversation begins with the growing expectation on schools to embed inclusion into everything they do from leadership and culture to curriculum and classroom practice. While the vision is clear, there’s an immediate tension between ambition and practicality, especially when funding and time feel limited. We explore what “inclusion” really means in practice. It’s not just about placing children in mainstream settings it’s about adapting the environment so every child can genuinely access learning. That raises deeper questions about whether the current curriculum allows for that flexibility, or whether it unintentionally limits it. A key theme throughout the episode is expertise. But rather than placing that responsibility on one individual, the discussion reframes it as a shared effort. Teachers, leaders, specialists, and external professionals all bring something essential and it’s only through collaboration that meaningful inclusion can happen. There’s also an honest look at the pressures teachers face. High expectations, rigid curriculum demands, and accountability systems can sometimes restrict creativity rather than support it. Without space and trust, even the most skilled educators can feel constrained. At its core, this episode is about balance finding a way to hold onto ambition while creating systems that genuinely support the people delivering it. In This Episode, We Discuss What the new inclusion expectations mean for schools in practice The reality behind funding and whether it matches the ambition Why inclusion requires a shift in curriculum thinking, not just placement The idea of shared expertise across teachers, leaders, and specialists How collaboration can unlock more effective support for children The importance of linking psychological development with classroom practice Why This Episode Matters Inclusion is no longer a side conversation it’s becoming central to how schools operate. But real change won’t come from policy alone. It depends on how well professionals work together, how much flexibility schools are given and whether teachers are truly supported to meet the diverse needs in their classrooms. This episode offers a grounded, honest perspective on what it will take to turn inclusion from an expectation into a reality. Connect with Mike Lane Website: ridgewaypsychology.co.uk LinkedIn: Michael Lane Connect with Me Instagram: @dradammcartney Website: dradammccartney.com YouTube: @Dr.AdamMcCartney
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