JUSTICE with prison philanthropist Edwina Grosvenor

Mothers in the justice system – the key issues and challenges

JUSTICE with prison philanthropist Edwina Grosvenor

Show Notes

In this first episode in our series exploring motherhood in the justice system, Edwina sat down with Lilly Lewis, Women’s Involvement Advisor at One Small Thing, to discuss some of the key issues and challenges facing mothers in the justice system.

Lilly is a survivor and campaigner on Domestic Abuse who started her campaigning work whilst in prison. After being sentenced in 2016 to 8 years in prison, she began to work with APPEAL as a Women's Justice Ambassador. Lilly also works at WHAG supporting young women at risk of homelessness. In her role at One Small Thing, Lilly ensures the voices of women affected by the justice system are included across our work, and writes a regular blog for us.

In this episode, Edwina and Lilly reflect on what has led them both to dedicate their time to advocating for changes to improve the outcomes for women in the justice system, and their children. We will also be hearing excerpts from a range of past expert contributors to the JUSTICE podcast on this topic.

In this upcoming series of JUSTICE we will be delving deeper into the issues discussed in this episode, and speaking to expert guests each week to further shed light on the challenges mothers face in the justice system – and what we could be doing differently.

Read Lilly’s blog https://onesmallthing.org.uk/blog

Read more about the One Small Thing charity here.

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