Air India crash, Miracle in Toronto, N414BA San Diego crash and more accidents
NTSB News Talk – Aviation Accidents, Safety Investigations & Pilot LessonsShow Notes
In this densely packed episode of NTSB News Talk, Max Trescott and Rob Mark discuss several major aviation accidents—ranging from high-profile international crashes to domestic general aviation incidents—emphasizing a recurring theme: loss of control due to distraction, poor decision-making, or misinterpretation of situational cues. The show opens with breaking news: a catastrophic crash of an Air India Boeing 787 Dreamliner shortly after takeoff, killing 240 of the 241 people on board. Notably, this is the first fatal accident involving the Dreamliner since its certification. Speculation online points to configuration errors—photos show the gear was down and the flaps were up only seconds after liftoff. The aircraft hit a building a mile from the runway, raising concerns about takeoff mismanagement and checklist failures. Max and Rob pivot to two significant upcoming NTSB hearings: the Alaska Airlines MAX 9 door plug blowout and the tragic midair collision between an American regional jet and an Army Blackhawk helicopter near Washington National Airport. Both hearings promise new details and will be livestreamed. Next, they cover a dramatic crash involving a twin-engine Cessna 414 that departed San Diego’s busy Lindbergh Field and spiraled into the ocean. The ADS-B data showed erratic climbs, rapid descents (up to 10,000 feet per minute), and multiple full-circle turns. The pilot seemed confused about altitude assignments and configuration changes. Rob and Max speculate possible vacuum failure, misinterpretation of ATC instructions (e.g., mishearing “13,000” as “1,300”), or general lack of proficiency. They reference the previous day’s flight, captured by VASAviation, which revealed a series of small pilot errors including wrong altitudes, incorrect intercepts, and a runway incursion during taxi—painting a broader picture of degraded situational awareness. Attention turns to the Transportation Safety Board of Canada’s preliminary report on the Endeavor Air CRJ-900 accident in Toronto. The aircraft landed in gusty crosswinds and crashed when the right main gear collapsed, resulting in a fiery rollover. Max details how the pilot flying likely reduced power too early in response to being five knots fast. That created a dangerous sink rate—exceeding 1,100 feet per minute just seconds before touchdown. Rob emphasizes how turbine aircraft handle differently from piston aircraft and questions whether the pilot’s limited experience (just over 1,400 hours) played a role. Remarkably, all passengers survived, a testament to fast-responding fire crews and luck. The duo then examines a runway incursion at Chicago Midway, where a Flexjet Challenger taxied across an active runway just as a Southwest 737 was on short final. Airport surveillance video captured the close call. Fortunately, the Southwest crew initiated a go-around. Rob, based in Chicago, breaks down the confusing taxi route and notes that pilots had already read back one set of incorrect instructions earlier. Max stresses how helpful moving maps are for taxi navigation—especially at night or in unfamiliar airports. Lastly, the hosts dissect a fatal Robinson R44 helicopter crash involving a student pilot near Miami, Texas. The pilot, flying solo on a cross-country, called a contact en route to express concern about fog. A witness on the ground said the helicopter looked unstable in low visibility conditions. There’s no record the pilot obtained a weather briefing. Rob questions whether the instructor should’ve proactively grounded the flight given poor weather. Max, drawing from his own training in the R44, emphasizes how most Robinson helicopters lack autopilots and are prohibited from entering IMC. Even pilots with instrument ratings often have no real cloud experience in helicopters, making VFR into IMC particularly deadly. Throughout the episode, Rob and Max reinforce several key lessons: Always verify what you hear from ATC—and trust your instincts if something seems off. M
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A Boeing 767 lands more than 3,700 feet down a Miami runway and overruns the pavement, killing five people on the ground. A Cirrus SR22 crashes during a second go-around, killing all five aboard. And a Cessna 421 loses both engines after being fueled with Jet A instead of avgas. In Episode 41 of NTSB News Talk, aviation safety experts Max Trescott and Rob Mark examine the critical decisions behind these accidents and the lessons pilots can take away. The newly released Miami Boeing 767 preliminary report raises serious questions about tailwinds, unstable approaches, airspeed warnings, and a go-around attempted far too late. A new NTSB final report on a fatal Cirrus SR22 crash at Kill Devil Hills reveals striking flight-data evidence of excessive pitch and an aerodynamic stall. The hosts also discuss Diamond DA40 crashed in mountainous terrain near Eldorado Springs, Colorado, a deadly Piper JetProp icing encounter over Wisconsin, a Gulfstream air ambulance crash following reported electrical problems, a Beech Bonanza fuel-starvation accident involving a congressman, a fatal nighttime Piper crash, and a midair collision between gliders. From fuel management and emergency procedures to stall prevention and go-around proficiency, this episode highlights a fundamental truth: even experienced pilots cannot afford to skip the basics.
Episode 40 examines a wide range of recent accidents before focusing on a troubling pattern: pilots flying with impairing OTC medications or drugs in their systems. Max Trescott and Rob Mark begin with a fatal nighttime crash of C-GPTX, a Cessna 172 in Saskatchewan and the runway overrun of Eclipse 500 N816KD at Auburn, California. They also discuss Beech Travel Air N529RB, which was flown in repeated low-level circles about 100 feet above the Pacific before crashing into the ocean, raising the possibility of an intentional act. Preliminary reports include Piper Seneca N212ML, lost near the Bahamas in convective weather; C-IFBY, a Para-Ski VX powered parachute carrying three people even though its U.S. operation did not qualify under Part 103; and Lake Amphibian N6185V, which apparently ran out of fuel just miles from Ithaca. Final reports include a fatal VFR-into-IMC accident involving N9626K, a Piper PA-28 and the crash of Ameriflight Beech C99 N130GP after a partial engine-power loss. The episode closes with four fatal-accident reports involving the active ingredients in Benadryl and Zyrtec, or cyclobenzaprine, cannabis, or morphine. The takeaway is simple: “over the counter” does not mean “safe to fly,” and pilots need to understand the FAA’s medication waiting-period guidance. Max also explains why medication effects can undermine a pilot’s own self-assessment.
New information from the NTSB is filling in the final seconds of the Amazon Prime Air Boeing 767 crash in Miami. The agency’s summary of the cockpit voice recorder shows repeated concerns about excessive speed, followed by touchdown and then, 16 seconds later, a call for a go-around. The brakes were released at a ground speed of 120 knots and go-around thrust was applied before the attempt was abandoned. Recorded data showed no indication that the speed brakes or thrust reversers were deployed. Max Trescott also revisits his ADS-B analysis of Flight 7598 and explains why he believes an automation surprise involving the Boeing 767’s vertical modes may have contributed to the airplane becoming high and fast. Then Max and Rob Mark examine the fatal KNBC AS350B2 helicopter crash in Los Angeles, including ADS-B evidence and reports of a possible low-rotor-RPM warning. Other accidents include N734ZK, a Cessna 172N crash at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport, N9485P, a fatal Piper Comanche accident at a short Alaska runway, N93R, a Lockheed 12A that took off with full flaps, a fuel-exhaustion accident involving N413AW, a Pipistrel Alpha, and N188PC, a Pilatus PC-12 loss of control in IMC. The episode closes with a story from the NASA ASRS Callback newsletter about a Cirrus pilot’s successful recovery from a dangerous distraction in instrument conditions.
An Amazon Prime Air Boeing 767 crashes after overrunning Runway 30 at Miami International Airport—and ADS-B data contains an important clue about how the approach became unstable. In this episode, we analyze the September 6 crash of Prime Air Flight 7598, operated by 21 Air with Boeing 767 N1997A. The flight from San Juan initially followed an almost perfect three-degree approach toward Miami. But approximately five miles from the runway, the aircraft unexpectedly leveled near 1,600 feet. The ADS-B data shows that 1,600 feet had been entered as the selected altitude much earlier in the descent. That raises the possibility of an automation surprise, although another possibility is that the crew leveled inadvertently after disconnecting the autopilot to hand-fly. The crew then attempted to recover using a descent approaching twice the normal glide angle. The 767 crossed the displaced threshold around 175 knots, apparently touched down near 160 knots, and was still traveling about 110 knots when it left the runway. We also examine a fatal PC-12 spatial-disorientation accident, new evidence of helicopter wake turbulence in a Cessna 150 collision, and a troubling student-pilot night CFIT accident involving a CFI cross-country endorsement. FAA No Go Over the Counter Medications List
In Episode 37 of NTSB News Talk, Max Trescott and Rob Mark examine new evidence from the fatal Learjet 55 air ambulance crash in Philadelphia and several other accidents with important lessons for pilots. Brought to you by AVEMCO aircraft insurance. Support Rob and Max by making a donation at Patreon.com The Learjet 55 departed Northeast Philadelphia Airport at night into a roughly 400-foot overcast. Newly released NTSB docket material shows the aircraft initially beginning its assigned right turn before slowly rolling left. The exceptionally gradual roll raises the possibility of somatogyral illusion—a form of spatial disorientation in which the inner ear may fail to detect slow rotational movement. Investigators also examined somatogravic illusion, cockpit workload, pitch trim, and the captain’s previous training history. Both engines appeared to be producing takeoff power, making an engine failure less likely. Max and Rob also discuss two wrong-runway landings near Chicago that illustrate continuation bias and task saturation. Other accidents include a Cirrus Vision Jet striking a pipe across a closed portion of a runway at Driggs, Idaho; a fatal Cessna 150 collision with a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter; N1850N a Beechcraft Duchess accident during simulated single-engine training; and a photographer fatally struck by the wing of glider N8217W. Also, two wrong-runway landings near Chicago, N772MR (Envoy 3936) and N1128M Learjet 60. Those final incidents highlight a recurring human-factors problem: once pilots commit mentally to a plan, contradictory evidence can become surprisingly difficult to recognize.