
Marc Morano: “Great Reject: Triumphant Trump Dismantles the Climate Agenda” | Tom Nelson Pod #398
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Marc Morano talks about his decades covering climate politics and his view that the climate movement is in rapid collapse due to overreach, public skepticism, and post-COVID distrust of “appeal to authority.” Morano contrasts Trump 1.0’s limited actions with Trump 2.0’s aggressive agenda: hundreds of pro-energy moves, exits from numerous UN bodies, a push to end the EPA CO2 endangerment finding, and a consensus-busting climate report later vacated over procedural issues. He says Democrats, media, Wall Street, and major figures like Bezos and Gates have gone quiet or shifted, while UN COP summits have become smaller and scandal-prone. He warns climate controls may reappear via public-health framing and future administrations.
00:00 Marc Morano Returns 00:36 Climate Movement Hits Low 02:31 Trump 1.0 vs 2.0 Setup 04:02 UN Climate Origins and Data Wars 07:14 GOP Nominees and Climate Drift 09:23 Trump 1.0 Wins and Limits 11:27 Biden Reversal and Green Mandates 14:57 Trump 2.0 Energy Blitz 15:19 Consensus Report Court Setback 16:58 Zeldin Targets Endangerment Finding 18:55 Iran War and Energy Shock Risk 20:00 Media Silence and Narrative Flip 21:59 Great Reset and WEF Agenda 27:22 Elites Pivot From Climate to AI 28:13 COVID Blowback Fuels Skepticism 33:42 Mainstream Admits Net Zero Failure 40:25 UN Summits Implode at COP30 44:28 Amazon Highway Coverup 45:39 Burgers Not Bugs 46:57 Toilet Paper Contraband 49:06 Summit Results Reality Check 51:40 Billionaires Media Flip 56:11 Energy Boom Coal Security 57:56 Climate Agenda Collapse 01:00:19 Narrative Culture War 01:02:46 Rio Treaty Withdrawal 01:05:20 Endangerment Finding Repeal 01:08:27 Climate Meets Public Health 01:11:31 Next Scares New Summits 01:18:43 COP Future And Coalition 01:25:40 Closing Thanks And Wrap
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