Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind - The Julian Jaynes Society Podcast

48. Consciousness Defined: The Flashlight in the Dark Room

Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind - The Julian Jaynes Society Podcast

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"Right now, there is a serious crisis in the scientific study of the mind. Neurobiologists, philosophers, and AI researchers are all trying to explain consciousness, but they are completely talking past one another. They aren't even working from the same definition. Over time, the word has been stretched so thin that it's lost its utility. ..." Learn more by reading "Conversations on Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind," currently on sale for a limited time: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1737305534/ https://www.julianjaynes.org/book/conversations-on-consciousness-and-the-bicameral-mind/ Or by becoming a member of the Julian Jaynes Society: https://www.julianjaynes.org/join/ Read the transcript: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2026/10/22/consciousness-defined-the-flashlight-in-the-dark-room/ Produced by Marcel Kuijsten using generative AI tools and reviewed by human editors for accuracy and clarity.

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