Show Notes
In this replay episode, Monique speaks with therapist and author Jenna Riemersma about Internal Family Systems, or IFS, and a compassionate way to work with the wounded parts of ourselves. Jenna explains why healing often starts by moving toward what we usually want to avoid, and how that shift can reduce shame, increase self-understanding, and create real internal change.They also discuss the difference between burdened parts and core self, how protective “wall” parts operate, and why healthy boundaries come from self rather than reactivity. Jenna shares a simple three-step practice called move toward: notice, know, and need.
Jenna explains how IFS views people as fundamentally good, with a core self that remains intact even after trauma The conversation centers on the idea that parts of us are not bad, but burdened by traumatic experiences and stuck in protective roles Monique and Jenna discuss how shame, rage, numbness, addiction, and dissociation can all be understood as parts trying to help Jenna uses the sun and clouds metaphor to explain why core self can feel inaccessible when protective parts take over A practical framework is introduced: move toward, which includes three steps - notice, know, and need Jenna gives a personal example involving canceled plans and how an abandoned, rejected part was triggered by present-day stress The episode explores why even one step of compassionate noticing can be deeply transformative Monique asks about wall parts, and Jenna explains how protective shutdown can feel like boundaries but usually functions as isolation Healthy boundaries are framed as something that can only come from core self, not from angry, fearful, or manipulative parts Jenna explains why “what’s in the way is the way” and how every part can become a doorway to healing
Jenna's books: Altogether You: Experiencing personal and spiritual transformation with Internal Family Systems therapy https://amzn.to/4y7KLsv Move Toward: A Simplified IFS Therapy Tool to Welcome All Parts of You https://amzn.to/45yy9OQ
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