
Show Notes
On the 135th episode of the What is a Good Life? podcast, I’m delighted to welcome our guest, Stephen Jenkinson. Stephen is a cultural worker, teacher, author, and ceremonialist. He is the creator and principal instructor of the Orphan Wisdom School, founded in 2010. He has master’s degrees from Harvard University (theology) and the University of Toronto (social work). He’s the author of Come of Age, the award-winning Die Wise, Money and the Soul’s Desires, and Reckoning (with Kimberly Ann Johnson). His latest book, Matrimony: Ritual, Culture and the Heart’s Work, invites readers to contemplate the significance of matrimony, ceremony, and cultural articulation—and how to redeem them for future generations. In this rich conversation, Stephen explores profound questions about life, love, and the nature of existence. The discussion delves into the essence of ceremonies, particularly in matrimony, emphasising the need for meaningful endings and the responsibilities we hold towards future generations. The discussion weaves fate, ancestry, humility, and the call to “proceed as if you’re needed” into a meditation on how we might live fully inhabited lives.
For Stephen's latest book, Matrimony: To buy your copy: https://orphanwisdom.com/store/matrimony/ About the book: https://orphanwisdom.com/books/matrimony/ For more of Stephen's work: Website: https://orphanwisdom.com/ For more from Mark McCartney: Newsletter: https://www.whatisagood.life/ Website: https://www.mmcleadership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-mccartney-14b0161b4/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@whatisagoodlife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markcmccartney 00:01 – Introduction 01:37 – The Condition of Pondering 06:28 – Roots of Pondering 10:16 – The Dream Another World Has of You 19:36 – Needed vs Important 21:46 – Matrimony and the Presence of the Absence 26:00 – Longing and Belonging 31:00 – Modern wedding and the privatisation of love 35:47 – The Art of the Ending 41:40 – Pompe and the Necessity of Closure 43:47 – Ritual as a Gift to the Village 45:45 – The White Heat of Possibility 51:25 – The Active Witness 53:43 – What Is a Good Life for Stephen? Keywords: Meaning of Life Interviews | meaning of life conversations | exploring life | big life questions | meaning of life discussions | creating a meaningful life
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