The Gut Health Gurus Podcast

Dr Vas Shah on Quantum Health

The Gut Health Gurus Podcast

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A mind blowing and wide ranging conversation with Dr Vas Shah on Quantum Biology, red light therapy, artificial light, sunlight, Electromagnetic frequencies, deuterium, mitochondria and much more...

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Bio:

I help Entrepreneurs and Executives get healthy and stay healthy - giving you the tools needed to maintain your edge and take control of your health, naturally.

Pharmacology based medicine isn't working. It's an outdated and obsolete paradigm.

Quantum Biology applies the principles in Quantum Physics to Human Biology representing the new Frontier for Science. Quantum Biology allows us to understand ourselves not just from the cellular but even deeper - from the sub-atomic level and from here we can reverse engineer the disease process.

Your genes are NOT your destiny. The science of epigenetics proves that your environment is the biggest predictor of health outcomes - that puts YOU back in the driving seat.

Not making any progress with the medical professions?

Then say hello and take a Quantum Leap ...to your health.

Topics discussed:

What is a Quantum Nutritionist/ Clinician?

What is Quantum Biology

The Seven Pillar Plan

Lasers and Light Therapy Technology

Red and Infrared Light

Trying a Vegan Diet

Chronometer Nutrition Calculator

https://cronometer.com/ Vas's Health Challenges- Anxiety and Chronic Insomnia

Dr Jack Kruse

Trying Jack's Protocol

High Carbohydrates

Blue Light Blocking Glasses

Blue / Green Light and Sleep

Raw Beef Liver, Sunlight and Grounding

UV light and Testosterone

Morley Robbins and Copper https://www.nourishmeorganics.com.au/blogs/nmo-gut-health-journal/morley-robbins-on-copper-deficiency-and-mineral-balance

Blood Donations and Iron

Iron and B Vitamin Fortification in Food

Copper and Zinc

Ancestral Eating

Meal Timing and Circadian Rhythm

Blue Light, Melatonin, ROS Free Radicals, Mitochondria

Deuterium Depletion and Mitochondria

Mitochondria Defined

ATP the energy currency

Mitochondria and Disease

Heart, Brain and Gut Mitochondrial Density

Deuterium in the Environment

Deuterium and Grains

Deuterium Depletion

Cold Thermogenesis (CT)

Artificial Lighting vs Sunlight

Modern Living

Impact of Quantum Biology on Gut Health

Glyphosate

Gut Brain Connection

Trusting your Food Supply

Grass Fed and Deuterium

Quantising to an environment

Eating Local

The impact of Lattitude

Mitochondria

Yolked to the Sun and Earth

Cancer and Metabolic Diseases

EMFs

Energy and Disease

Cold Thermogenesis (CT) Continued

Fasting and Keto

Exclusion Zone Water

Training in Sunlight

Mitochondrial Latitude

Vas's Protocol

Vas's Top Gut Health Tip

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