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Jennifer Robinson: Living in the Age of Consequences Video

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HEART & SOUL with DAVID LESER Ep 1 Jennifer Robinson: Living in the Age of Consequences If you want to hear some of the inside experience of the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp UK Trial and the role of the court in silencing women then this episode is for you! Jennifer Robinson speaks about some of her most famous cases and clients — including Julian Assange and Amber Heard – shares insights from her Grandmother and talks about Silenced, the film adaptation of her book, and how achieving change can take a lifetime. About the guest Jennifer Robinson is one of the world’s leading human rights lawyers, known for her fearless advocacy on behalf of journalists, protesters and human rights defenders facing persecution. She has worked on some of the most significant media legal cases of our time, including representing Julian Assange and helping secure his freedom in 2024. Jennifer has long championed the rights of the people of West Papua, and is at the forefront of climate justice litigation. A passionate advocate for women’s rights, Jennifer challenges the ways legal systems can silence women, as explained powerfully in her co-authored book How Many More Women? and the documentary based on it, Silenced. Jennifer Robinson and Keio Yoshida’s book is available at all good book stores and the film Silenced is in theatres in Australia from September 3rd 2026: https://www.silenced-film.com Jennifer Robinson is a barrister at Doughty Street Chambers in London and was awarded the 2026 Sydney Peace Prize. Credits Host: David Leser — Director: Ian Darling — Camera and lights: Ben Cunningham, Harry Kielly, Tiernan Rennie — Sound: Andy Gordon — Front of House: Sarah Butler — Photography: Harry Kielly — Editors: Sally Fryer and Harry Kielly

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