The Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast

Your Kids Don’t Need More Pressure. They Need This | Ep 103

The Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast

Show Notes

What if the problem isn’t that your kids can’t focus, but that we’re asking them to learn in ways their brains were never designed for?

In this episode, Corey and Christine sit down with homeschooling mentor, educator, and author Julie Bogart to challenge some of the most deeply ingrained assumptions about learning, attention, discipline, and “doing enough.” From the surprising truth about children’s attention spans to why pressure actually shuts learning down, this conversation is both deeply freeing and radically practical for parents navigating education at home or alongside traditional school.

Join our newly-launched Patreon community for ad-free episodes and bonus content with our guests.

The Real Problem Isn’t AI, It’s How We’ve Taught Kids to Write | Bonus Rapid Fire Conversation with Julie Bogart https://www.patreon.com/c/ModernAncestralMamas Julie shares decades of wisdom from raising and homeschooling five children, including why short lessons beat long ones, how to support neurodivergent kids without burning everyone out, and why relationship, not rigor, is the true foundation of learning. Corey and Christine also explore how fear-based schooling, nagging, and performance pressure impact kids long term, and what it looks like to raise curious, resilient learners without constant power struggles.

📚 Books Mentioned! 📍 The Brave Learner by Julie Bogart 📍 Raising Critical Thinkers by Julie Bogart 📍 Help! My Kid Hates Writing by Julie Bogart

✨ Topics Covered in This Episode: ✔️ Why a child’s true attention span is “age + one minute” ✔️ The myth that longer lessons equal better learning ✔️ How pressure trains kids to disengage and shut down ✔️ Why short, focused lessons work better for ADHD kids ✔️ Homeschooling then vs. now and what’s been lost ✔️ Fear-based education vs. curiosity-driven learning ✔️ Rotating attention between kids instead of doing all subjects, all kids, every day ✔️ How to stop nagging and start building cooperation ✔️ Why relationship is the missing “R” in education ✔️ Helping kids love learning again without lowering standards

🧠 More About This Episode: Julie Bogart is the founder of Brave Writer and a longtime voice in the homeschooling world, known for helping parents trust themselves, trust their children, and build learning environments rooted in connection and curiosity. In this conversation, Julie breaks down why so many modern parents feel overwhelmed and inadequate, and how stepping back, simplifying, and leading with relationship can transform both learning and family life.

Whether you homeschool full time, part time, or simply want a healthier relationship with school and learning in your home, this episode offers a powerful reframing of what education can look like when pressure is replaced with trust.

✨ Support the Show! 👍 Like & Subscribe for more ancestral motherhood conversations ⭐ Leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify 💬 Comment below: What subject feels hardest in your home right now?

#Homeschooling #Parenting #ADHDKids #GentleLearning #CriticalThinking #ModernAncestralMamas #AncestralMotherhood #EducationReimagined #SlowLiving #MindfulParenting

📲 Stay Connected: Patreon Community | https://www.patreon.com/c/ModernAncestralMamas @fornutrientssake | https://www.instagram.com/fornutrientssake/ @nourishthelittles | https://www.instagram.com/nourishthelittles/ @modernancestralmamas | https://www.instagram.com/modernancestralmamas/ YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@ModernAncestralMamas

More from The Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast

Oct 21, 2026

📍 Unsifted Freshly Milled Flour: Enjoy $10 off your first purchase of $100 or more (Code: MAM10) https://unsifted.com In this conversation with Dr. Ben Edwards, a conventionally trained family physician from Texas, we hear a healing story that changed the course of his career. Dr. Ben grew up the grandson of two small-town country doctors and was on top of the world running a rural clinic in West Texas. Then his nurse practitioner, who had lived with celiac disease for years, came to work one day and ate gluten right in front of him. That moment led Dr. Ben to a doctor who challenged everything he had been taught, and eventually to leaving the insurance model behind and building a clinic focused on getting to the root cause of illness. This is the third episode in our grain series, where we look at the health benefits of freshly milled flour. Dr. Ben shares why he believes the modern American gut struggles with refined flour, how stomach acid, the microbiome, and leaky gut all play a role in gluten reactions, and why freshly milled whole grain behaves so differently in the body than white flour. We also dig into phytic acid, the fermenting and soaking debate, when to introduce grains to babies, and why he encourages his patients to bring these decisions to prayer and not just protocols.

Oct 14, 2026

📍 Unsifted Freshly Milled Flour: Enjoy $10 off your first purchase of $100 or more (Code: MAM10) https://unsifted.com

Oct 7, 2026

📍 Unsifted Freshly Milled Flour: Enjoy $10 off your first purchase of $100 or more (Code: MAM10) – https://unsifted.com In this conversation with Jen, a registered nurse of nearly 40 years, we hear her story of chronic illness and how she came back to bread. After years of microscopic colitis, psoriasis, and a long list of autoimmune diagnoses, Jen tried nearly every protocol out there, including carnivore, GAPS, and low FODMAP, and stayed gluten-free for close to a decade. Then she felt led to eat bread again, and what happened next surprised her, her doctors, and her family. This is the "healed" episode in our new series on grains, where we look at wheat through the eyes of the farmer, the miller, the baker, and the healed. Jen shares why sourdough made with store-bought flour didn't work for her, what changed when she started milling her own grain, how her labs and digestion responded, and what she experienced in the first few weeks. We also talk about choosing a grain mill, how she bakes six loaves a week, and why she believes the real issue is not gluten but what has been stripped from our flour.

Sep 30, 2026

📍 Baja Gold Signature Minerals: use code MAM10 for 10% off – https://bajagoldminerals.com/ 📍 Vintage Traditions Whole-Food Skin Care: use code MAM10 for 10% off – https://www.vintagetradition.com

Sep 23, 2026

📍 Baja Gold Signature Minerals: use code MAM10 for 10% off – https://bajagoldminerals.com/ 📍 Vintage Traditions Whole-Food Skin Care: use code MAM10 for 10% off – https://www.vintagetradition.com

See all episodes →