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/548/ Post-Legitimate Society ft. Will Charles

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Show Notes

On the gig economy, big tech, and ideology. Sociologist Will Charles talks to Alex about a form of social organisation that has stopped trying to justify itself.

How should the gig economy work and how does it actually work?

Is any worker in this economy a 'true believer'?

Why isn't digital sophistication a proof of economic efficiency?

What's the relationship between secular stagnation, value capture, and rentierism?

Do workers hold to a latent moral economy that could provide the basis for revolt?

Full episode for subscribers only. Sign up: patreon.com/bungacast Readings:

Muskism and the Myth of Productive Revolution, Will Charles

Post-Legitimate Society, Will Charles & Ryan Gunderson

Muskism Is the Specter Stalking Our Present, Alex Hochuli, Jacobin

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/538/ Muskism ft. Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff

/522/ At the Bottom of the Tar Pit ft. Benjamin Studebaker

/540/ Welcome to the Apolar and Post-Multilateral World ft. Tom Chodor

/546/ Reading Club: Are We All Post-Liberal Now? ft. Geoff Shullenberger

/547/ What Are the Politics of Stagnation? ft. Dylan Riley

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