Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast

De-Feedback Plugin for Working Musicians: More Gain, Less Feedback with Devin Sheets

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast

Show Notes

You’re invited into a legacy family audio business that refused to accept “good enough” on feedback control and instead chased the impossible: a truly zero‑latency, AI‑driven way to push your PA louder without squeals. You follow Devin Sheets from growing up on sound gigs to roaming European stages, then back home to build De‑Feedback plugin for working musicians, a live sound feedback plugin and on‑the‑fly impulse‑response generator that listens like a seasoned engineer: separating human voice, room reverb, background noise, and feedback in real time so you can grab at least 6 dB more gain before things start to howl. Along the way you see how NAMM sparked the idea, how inverse impulse responses and probability math beat old EQ and gate tricks, and how “homebrew AI” meant sneaking into every empty church at 3 a.m. just to teach the model what real rooms actually sound like.

You also learn how to think like a modern working musician: using social media to find the right AI programmers across the world, leaning on LLMs to translate, collaborate, and even rate contractor work so you can move faster without losing control. You come away knowing you can drop a dedicated De‑Feedback box or plugin into almost any rig, from churches to touring consoles to tiny clubs, take it with you even when someone else is behind the board, and quietly stack the deck in your favor. In the end, it’s a roadmap for how you run your own gigs and career: stay curious, embrace new tools, protect your sound, and Always Be Performing.

00:00:00 Gig Gab 524 – Monday, March 9th, 2026

March 9th: National Meatball Day

Guest co-host: Devin Sheets from Alpha Labs

00:02:12 Let’s Grow this Legacy Family Business

Grew up doing sound

Also a musician

Lived in Europe

Then came back and said, “let’s grow this family business!”

00:03:44 We haven’t “just solved” this feedback problem

Went to NAMM for the first time, and was inspired

There are automated EQ-based or gate-based systems

PSE plugin from Waves

5045 for feedback

00:04:57 Why isn’t there a “balanced audio”-type solution for Feedback

Balanced Audio fixes hums and it just works.

00:08:24 NAMM is a great inspiration…and it inspired Devin and his team to seek a feedback plugin solution

People get entrenched

Inverse Impulse Response methodology

00:12:35 Training the AI to listen for three things: human voice, reverb, and feedback

Created a de-reverb algorithm and went beyond that

A probability calculation does the math

00:16:05 Truly zero latency for the plugin

Workflow latency remains

00:19:32 I don’t have any coding or AI background, but I have a gut feeling AI will fix this feedback problem

Others: It’s harder than you think

Devin: I knew that it needed to happen

00:20:58 Finding an AI programmer who was interested in doing

Experimented with some programmers, failed, learned some things!

00:21:09 Social Media to the rescue!

Late 2023: Devin found a group of AI programmers who would be interested

Sending large amounts of money to China…it’s a risk!

00:26:30 At 3am, a text message: I think I’ve done it.

Devin immediately started testing it himself

“It seemed to work.”

00:27:17 Installing De-Feedback in Churches

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00:34:20 What is an impulse response?

Impulse Response: An audio picture of how the room sounds

Popping balloons in a room/environment and recording the sound is a common approach for creating impulse responses

00:38:33 De-Feedback is an on-the-fly IR generator

…and analyzer that’s trained on the human voice, room reverb, background noise…and feedback

00:41:55 Finding the right programmers was the key

…in addition to actually having the idea

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