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Welcome to Books That Matter. In this series, I ask writers to share a book that matters to them. I read it and we deep dive into the world of the text, exploring story, craft, and the way a great book can become part of someone. You’ll hear your favorite authors on their favorite authors and come away with expertly curated reading lists. Today, Layne Fargo, author of The Favorites, Temper and They Never Learn, joins me to talk about Emily Brontë’s haunting classic Wuthering Heights. This is one of my favorite novels of all time. I love how messy and slippery and complicated it is—how every time I read it I notice something new and change my mind about what I think the book is “really” doing. I’ve wanted to talk about this strange and brooding novel with Layne since I read her brilliant reimagining of WH set in the world of Olympic ice dancing, and I loved talking with her about why this novel endures and why it’s still puzzling us centuries after its publication. I also got the chance to ask Layne about The Favorites and learn how a totally different project and a Wuthering Heights reread developed into this gripping bestseller. If you’re a reader, you’ll love this peek behind the curtain, and if you’re a writer, you’ll love the lessons buried in Layne’s lived experiences. You can purchase The Favorites, Temper, They Never Learn and Emily Brontë’s Wuthering Heights on Bookshop.org or wherever you get your books!
Layne Fargo has a background in theater, women’s studies, and library science, so it’s only fitting that she now writes deliciously dramatic, unapologetically feminist stories for a living. She’s the bestselling author of the novels The Favorites, They Never Learn, and Temper, and her work has been translated into more than twenty languages as well as optioned for film and TV. Layne lives in Chicago with her partner, their pets, and an ever-expanding collection of books she’s definitely going to read before she dies. * East of Eden by John Steinbeck * East of Eden * Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte * Wuthering Heights (1992) * Novel Pairings Episode 166. Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen * The Favorites by Layne Fargo * Wise Children * Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte * The Interestings by Meg Wolitzer * Saltburn * Windward Heights by Maryse Conde * What Souls are Made Of by Tasha Suri * The Madwoman Upstairs by Catherine Lowell * FictionMatters Interview with Layne Fargo * Anna K by Jenny Lee * Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir’s Moulin Rouge at PyeongChang 2018
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Welcome to Books That Matter. In this series, I’ll speak with writers I admire to learn about their lives as readers and deep dive into a book that matters to them. Laura B. McGrath is Assistant Professor of English at Temple University, National Endowment for the Humanities Fellow, and author of Middlemen: Literary Agents and the Making of American Fiction. Her writing has appeared in The Atlantic, The Nation, The Los Angeles Review of Books, and Public Books. She also writes the popular publishing substack, TextCrunch. In today’s episode, Laura joins me to talk about Meg Wolitzer’s The Wife. I absolutely loved reading this book and it is a novel that absolutely must be discussed so I was thrilled to get the chance to deep dive into it with Laura. We talked about what makes a good publishing novel and how this particular book illuminates gender disparities in the literary world, while saying something much broader about what it means to be a woman and a wife. Of course we also we dive into Laura’s book Middlemen, which is all about the unique role literary agents play in the contemporary American publishing landscape. This book is the very definition of a rich text. I found Laura’s discoveries fascinating and I think any reader of contemporary fiction will as well. While we do talk about the end of The Wife, we save that for the last few minutes of our conversation and give ample warning before we we into spoilers! You can find Middlemen on Bookshop.org or wherever you get your books! This is a peek behind the curtain of a very opaque industry and if you love books, I think you’ll find it extremely interesting. Connect with Laura: Website | Instagram | Substack | Middlemen on Bookshop
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Welcome to the FictionMatters Podcast. I’m your host Sara Hildreth and this is Books That Matter. In this series, I’ll speak with writers I admire to learn about their lives as readers and deep dive into a book that matters to them. Shannon Sanders is the author of The Great Wherever (Holt, July 2026) and the linked short story collection Company (Graywolf, 2023), which won the 2024 Los Angeles Times Book Prizes’ Art Seidenbaum Award for First Fiction, was named one of the best books of 2023 by Publishers Weekly and Debutiful, and was shortlisted for the 2024 William Saroyan International Prize for Writing. Her short fiction has appeared in numerous publications, including One Story, The Sewanee Review, Virginia Quarterly Review, and Electric Literature, and has received a PEN/Robert J. Dau Short Story Prize for Emerging Writers. She lives in Silver Spring, Maryland, with her husband and three sons. In today’s episode, Shannon joins me to talk about Toni Morrison’s Jazz, and I felt honored to unpack this complicated and beautifully rendered novel with her. Then we dive into Shannon’s new novel The Great Wherever, which is out Tuesday, July 7th, and yes that is tomorrow if you’re listening to this episode the day it drops. I had the great privilege of reading an early copy of The Great Wherever and I have to say it’s one of the best family novels I’ve read in a long time and I loved the originality Shannon brings to the narrative structure. While we do get into some specifics about Jazz, we don’t include any spoilers for The Great Wherever and you can listen to the episode without yet having read either book. You can find The Great Wherever in your favorite bookshop on July 7th. I also have to give a strong push for Company, Shannon’s linked short story collection which was one of my favorite books of 2023. Aubrey’s family appears in Company as well so if you fall in love with them, you need to pick a copy of that as well! * The Great Wherever by Shannon Sanders * The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin * The Wayside School Series by Louis Sachar * Holes by Louis Sachar * The Babysitters Club by Ann M. Martin * Mary Downing Hahn * The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald * Lord of the Flies by William Golding * Toni Morrison * Octavia Butler * Chinua Achebe * Agatha Christie * The God of the Woods by Liz Moore * Tana French * Company by Shannon Sanders * Jamel Brinkley * Deesha Philyaw * Pemi Aguda * Three Women by Lisa Taddeo * Ghost Lover by Lisa Taddeo * The Final Revival of Opal and Nev by Donnie Walton * Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi * Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn * Ann Patchett * Jonathan Franzen * Jazz by Toni Morrison * Beloved by Toni Morrison * Paradise by Toni Morrison * On Morrison by Namwali Serpell * The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison * Corregidora by Gayl Jones * Kindred by Octavia E. Butler * Dominion by Addie E. Citchens * The Love Songs of W. E. B. Du Bois by Honoree Fannone Jeffers * The World Doesn’t Require You by Rion Amilcar Scott * The Devil Three Times by Rickey Fayne *This post contains affiliate links.
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