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S4E9 Changing emotion with emotion in EFT | Dr Anna Oldershaw
EPISODE SUMMARY Most therapists are comfortable talking about emotions, but Emotion Focused Therapy (EFT) takes things several steps further. In this episode, Dr. Natalie Stott sits down with Dr Anna Oldershaw, consultant clinical psychologist and EFT trainer, to demystify the nuts, bolts, and chairs of EFT. They explore why “changing emotion with emotion” is central, the art of letting clients discover their own “Rome”, and why the therapy is more than a rebranding of common practice. Whether you’re curious about chairwork, anxious about secondary anger, or wondering how EFT fits in alongside Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), you’ll leave with something practical for your next session. TIMESTAMPS 00:03 What is Emotion Focused Therapy, and why does it matter? 02:20 How Dr. Anna Oldershaw stumbled upon EFT (and SPEAKS therapy for anorexia) 05:39 Can you integrate EFT with schema therapy or ACT? 07:35 Chairwork: making internal parts less terrifying 09:38 EFT’s view on emotions: adaptive, maladaptive, and what’s really going on when clients say they’re “just angry” 16:54 Working with clients’ own process, not parachuting in with answers 26:31 The nuts and bolts of running a chair task (and what to do if things go off piste) 31:19 What can clients do between sessions to keep the work alive? 45:24 Interested in training in EFT? How to start
KEY TAKEAWAYS • Use “chairwork” to facilitate clients’ dialogues with critical or protective parts—let them find their own insights, not yours. • Distinguish between primary adaptive emotions (helpful, situation-relevant), primary maladaptive emotions (old wounds replaying), and secondary emotions (reactions to other feelings). Don’t take clients’ first answers at face value. • When chairwork risks a shouting match between parts, focus on building assertiveness in the “experiencing” chair and softening of the critic—don’t force a negotiation. • Listen for process “markers” as sessions begin to decide which EFT task (chair, focusing, imagery) will actually fit. • To boost client awareness between sessions, ask them to notice and name when certain inner critics or feelings emerge—no need to “fix”, just notice. • Be careful about overlaying your own formulation. Use conjecture gently, reflect back, and let the client’s experience lead. • If a client experiences blocks (i.e., “I can’t go there”), work with the blocking part directly—don’t bulldoze through. GUEST Dr Anna Oldershaw Consultant clinical psychologist, internationally accredited EFT trainer and supervisor, and director of the Emotion Focused Therapy Institute. Specialises in eating disorders and developed the SPEAKS therapy approach for anorexia. RESOURCES FREE EFT training- apply HERE Emotion Speaks Overview of Emotion-Focused Therapy, research, and videos 🔗 Link here Core Skills Training (Level 1) Four-day EFT training focused on core tasks you can use immediately (Next course in May 26) 🔗 Booking link Advanced Empathic Attunement For therapists wanting to refine moment-to-moment emotional work 🔗 Booking link SPEAKS Therapy (Eating Disorders) Integrates Emotion-Focused Therapy and Schema Therapy 🔗 Training link | 🔗 Book link • Les Greenberg’s EFT videos and further resources: Emotion Focused Therapy Institute UK – Video Resource
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S5E6: How to Find Your Therapy Niche with Josephine Hughes Do therapists really need a niche, or is this simply another piece of marketing advice that makes private practice feel more complicated than it already is? In this episode, Dr Natalie Stott speaks with counsellor and Good Enough Counsellors podcast host Josephine Hughes about finding the clients you genuinely want to work with. They explore why being trained to work with a wide range of people can make narrowing your focus feel uncomfortable, particularly when you are worried about finding enough clients. Josephine explains that a niche does not have to box you in. It gives potential clients, colleagues, search engines and AI a clearer signal about the work you offer. A client may never search for “single-incident trauma”, but they might search for help after a road accident or because they panic every time they get behind the wheel. They also discuss what happens when you are highly skilled in an area you no longer enjoy, whether you need to be an expert before choosing a specialism and why your niche can change as your practice develops. Josephine shares a practical exercise for identifying the common thread running through the clients you most enjoy working with. If the instruction to “find your niche” has left you staring blankly at your website biography, this is a useful place to begin. KEY TAKEAWAYS A niche helps clients recognise that your work is relevant to them. Clients often search using situations and everyday experiences rather than therapy terminology. Different presentations may share an underlying emotional theme or “root”. Choosing a niche does not prevent you from accepting other suitable referrals. You can test your wording, notice who responds and adapt your focus over time. You do not need to become an expert before beginning to develop a specialism. Reviewing three clients you worked particularly well with can reveal useful patterns. The work you are good at is not necessarily the work you want to build your practice around.
S5E5: Practical AI for Therapists: Green, Amber and Red Uses How can therapists make practical use of AI without handing over sensitive information, clinical judgement or half the contents of their inbox? In this solo episode, Dr Natalie Stott explores how AI has moved beyond simple chatbot prompts. Today’s tools can listen, create, research and act on your behalf. That brings useful opportunities for clinical work and private practice. It also introduces risks that cannot be solved by removing a client’s name and hoping for the best. Natalie introduces a green, amber and red framework for assessing AI use. She also explains the differences between consumer chatbots, clinical scribes, agents and AI builders. Practical examples include creating accessible therapy worksheets, rehearsing psychoeducation through voice mode, preparing for appraisal, auditing a private-practice website and using AI as a research or marketing assistant. The episode also considers AI scribes, agent permissions and why human review remains essential. Resources mentioned: Airnote: AI Scribe for therapists ICO Guidance on AI AI SEO AUDIT-to use with agents Free AI health Check
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