Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust

Reclaiming Wonder (with the Makers & Mystics podcast)

Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust

Show Notes

Sunday Sanctuary has teamed up with the Makers and Mystics podcast to bring you this episode on reclaiming wonder! Stephen Roach from Makers and Mystics is Petra's guest on this episode of Sunday Sanctuary as they explore the different ways that noticing the small wonders of the world can re-open, restore and change lives. Petra and Stephen look at finding wonder largely through the lens of creativity, but no matter how creative you're feeling today, this episode is a calm, wonder-chasing sanctuary for you. For those of you who want to delve deeper into Petra and Stephen's conversation, an extended cut will appear in the Makers and Mystics podcast feed on November 13th. For any Makers and Mystics listeners who have come to Sunday Sanctuary, kia ora/hello! It's great to have you here. Haere mai! (Welcome/Come along!) Sacred texts: 'The mystery of tea' scene from the film After Yang (a great film, especially for fans of cosy sci-fi which looks at themes of memory and family) 'The Summer Day' poem by Mary Oliver (read by Mary Oliver at The 92nd St Y) Music: Weird Little Birthday Girl by Happyness (played during intro) Stormy by Gabor Szabo (played to end the first part of Stephen's conversation) Red Lit Room by Holly Arrowsmith Space is the Place by Ezra Collective (played during Community Life) The Sea Has Spoken by Songs of Water (This is Stephen's band! Played during the contemplative moment) Summer's End by Julie Byrne (played during communion) Movement 6 and Movement 7 by Floating Points, Pharoah Sanders and the London Symphony Orchestra Slider (Lorenzo Saxophone Dub) by This Is The Kit (played at the end of Stephen's conversation) Vanity by Mica Levi (played during the benediction)

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