Apologetics 315 Podcast

141 - Argument from Reason with Travis Dickinson

Apologetics 315 Podcast

Show Notes

Summary In this episode, Brian and Chad interview Travis Dickinson about the argument from reason. They discuss the different options for explaining the existence of logical principles, focusing on naturalism and Platonism. Travis argues that if God does not exist, logical principles either do not exist or exist as brute abstract objects. He explains that naturalism, which denies the existence of anything outside the natural world, cannot account for the existence of logical principles. Platonism, on the other hand, posits the existence of abstract objects in a separate realm, but this explanation is ad hoc and lacks independent reasons. Travis concludes that the most plausible explanation for logical principles is the existence of God. In this part of the conversation, Brian and Travis discuss the argument from reason and its connection to the existence of God. They explore the idea that our ability to reason and use logic points to the existence of a higher mind, which they identify as God. They also discuss how the argument from reason can be used in practical apologetics to engage with skeptics and point them towards Christ.

Takeaways The argument from reason posits that if God does not exist, logical principles either do not exist or exist as brute abstract objects. Naturalism, which denies the existence of anything outside the natural world, cannot account for the existence of logical principles. Platonism, which posits the existence of abstract objects in a separate realm, is an ad hoc explanation without independent reasons. The most plausible explanation for logical principles is the existence of God. Our ability to reason and use logic suggests the existence of a higher mind, which can be identified as God. The argument from reason can be used in practical apologetics to engage with skeptics and challenge their worldview. The moral argument may be more effective in hitting people in the gut, but the argument from reason provides a strong intellectual foundation for belief in God. Studying logic and critical thinking can be seen as a way of studying God and living in a way that reflects the mind of Christ. The argument from reason points to the idea that God is the greatest conceivable being, worthy of worship and the normative standard for reasoning.

Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:17 Guest Introduction 03:33 The Incompatibility of Naturalism and Logical Principles 05:01 Reason as the Observable Phenomenon 06:29 The Plausibility of God as the Ground of Logical Principles 16:21 The Ad Hoc Nature of Platonism 24:23 The Limitations of Platonism 26:14 The Need for a Ground of Logical Principles 27:13 The Argument from Reason and the Existence of God 30:07 The Platonic View vs. the Theistic View 35:17 Jesus as the Originating Logical Principle 39:38 Jesus as the Ground of Being and Logic 51:03 The End of Every Philosophical Question is God

================================ We appreciate your feedback. If you’re on TWITTER, you can follow Chad @TBapologetics. You can follow Brian @TheBrianAuten And of course, you can follow @Apologetics315 If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at [email protected]

More from Apologetics 315 Podcast

Dec 12, 2025

🎙️ Show Notes: The Deity of Christ with Robert BowmanThis is a summary of the Apologetics 315 podcast episode featuring an interview with Rob Bowman. Bowman is the president of the Institute for Religious Research (IRR) in Cedar Springs, Michigan, and the author or co-author of 15 books on topics including apologetics, Christology, and the Trinity.This conversation, hosted by Brian Auten and Chad Gross , explores the evidence for the deity of Christ and how believers can be equipped to explain this core doctrine.🔑 Key Takeaways & Topics Guest Information: Rob Bowman is the president of the Institute for Religious Research (IRR) and has written or co-authored 15 books, including works on Christology and the Trinity. Book Focus: The discussion is based on two of Bowman's books:Putting Jesus in His Place: The Case for the Deity of Christ The Incarnate Christ and His Critics, a Biblical Defense

Nov 1, 2025

Summary: In this episode, Brian and Chad talk with Christian apologist and evangelist **Eric Hernandez** about his book *The Lazy Approach to Evangelism: A Simple Guide for Conversing with Non-Believers*. Eric discusses how evangelism and apologetics intersect, why every believer is called to defend the faith, and how to engage with skeptics effectively and biblically.

Oct 19, 2025

Guest: Braxton Hunter — President of Trinity College & Seminary, evangelist, apologist, host of Trinity Radio, debate partner with leading atheists including Matt Dillahunty and Dan Barker. Topics Covered

Jul 24, 2025

Summary In this episode, Brian Auten and Chad Gross welcome back philosopher and author **Peter S. Williams** to discuss his book, *Behold the Man: Essays on the Historical Jesus*. This engaging conversation explores the intersection of worldview, epistemology, and historical scholarship in the search for the real Jesus.

Jun 2, 2025

Summary Chad Gross interviews Dr. Christopher Cloos about the challenging Old Testament violence texts and his recent debate with theologian Randal Rauser. They explore the complexities of interpreting these texts, the role of moral intuition, and the contrasting views of covenant virtue ethics and providential errancy theory. The conversation delves into how moral intuitions can inform biblical interpretation while also addressing the potential pitfalls of subjectivity in understanding scripture. They explore how moral intuition can be used to interpret scripture, the implications of difficult passages, and the importance of engaging with differing views charitably. The conversation also highlights resources for further learning in this area.

See all episodes →