The Membership: A Wendell Berry Podcast

Episode 17: Interview with David and Mike Kline

The Membership: A Wendell Berry Podcast

Show Notes

John Pattison interviews David Kline, the Amish farmer, writer, and editor of Farming Magazine. Kline is also a close, longtime friend of Wendell Berry. They are joined by Mike Kline, David’s son. Mike is the co-host of one our favorite podcasts, Back to the Roots, about organic farming.

S2E2: Interview with Amish Farmer David Kline

The Membership: A Wendell Berry Podcast

SHOW NOTES AND LINKS The Round of a Country Year: A Farmer’s Day Book, by David Kline (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint)

The Farm Home Cookbook: Wholesome and Delicious Recipes from the Land, by Elsie Kline (IndieBound | Amazon | Farming Magazine)

Farming Magazine

“Amish Economy” (Poem), by Wendell Berry

Back to the Roots Podcast

Back to the Roots Podcast, Episode 1 (Interview with David Kline)

Organic Valley Cooperative

The Berry Center Bookstore (new site)

Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF)

The Rabbit Room Podcast Network

The Membership Podcast Online Facebook

Twitter

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Cover image via Counterpoint Press.

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In this episode, we introduce new co-host Matt Wheeler, a singer-songwriter from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. John and Matt talk about Matt's experience turning Wendell Berry's short stories into an album, how Matt answers the question: "What Wendell Berry book should I read first?", and how he started corresponding with the Berrys. Then John and Matt preview Season 4 and reveal the book they will be discussing first: Berry's forthcoming essay collection, Dispatches from Rural America (out October 27). Next episode: We will be discussing the essay "Against Killing Children," the first essay in Berry's new collection Dispatches from Rural America.

Oct 9, 2026

In this episode, John announces the relaunch of the podcast with a new cohost, singer-songwriter Matt Wheeler. The first episode with Matt comes out on Tuesday, October 13. John also reads an article that he wrote for Substack in the days after Wendell Berry’s death on August 31.

Feb 12, 2025

In this episode of The Membership, David and John discuss a book that is an unusual in the Port William series -- it's about a mouse, and is sometimes classified as a children's book -- but still feels right at home. That book? Whitefoot: A Story from the Center from the World, by Wendell Berry. We talk about the experience of compressing the imagination to the size of a mouse, where this book sits among Berry's other works, and why the realization that one lives at the center of the world is "the world's profoundest thought." And much more.

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In his poem “Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front,” Wendell Berry calls the reader to “Practice resurrection.” In today’s episode, we discuss one of Berry’s Sabbath poems. It has a Christmas theme that could be summarized this way: “Practice incarnation.”

Aug 22, 2023

In this episode, we interview singer-songwriter Matt Wheeler about his new album, A Hard History of Love. That album is inspired by five short stories in Berry’s story collection, That Distant Land. We talk about the process of writing songs inspired by great literature, about some of our favorite Port William characters, and what “membership” looks like in Matt’s life. UPDATE: The Kickstarter for Matt’s album release is now fully funded. All backers will now receive a print of Ned Bustard’s cover art for the album. The Kickstarter ends on August 25 at 7:15 a.m. Eastern. Kickstarter for A Hard History of Love: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hardhistory/a-hard-history-of-love-by-matt-wheeler

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