Actually Interesting

Why we need a culture of accountability around algorithms

Actually Interesting

Show Notes

In the Star Trek Voyager episode 'Critical Care', the Doctor – well, actually, the mobile emitter that produces him as a hologram – is stolen and sold to an alien hospital ship. There, he discovers that the complex computer algorithm that determines treatment, the Allocator, dishes out lifesaving care according to each patient's Treatment Coefficient – which measures not need, but an individual's value to society. To lower-value patients, the computer just says no, without explanation. They die.

Mandy Henk was home sick herself recently when she watched the episode. And she swiftly recognised that this was a dystopian sci-fi story about a real thing used in the government sector here on Earth, in New Zealand: an operational algorithm. We do not dispense medical treatment on the basis of individuals' deemed social value. But we do use algorithms to make a bunch of other decisions: provisioning school bus routes, predicting which young school-leavers are in danger of falling through the cracks, triaging visa applications.

The government uses algorithms to make all kinds of decisions, from provisioning school bus routes and predicting which young school-leavers are in danger of falling through the cracks to triaging visa applications Henk, the CEO of Tohatoha, the organisation formerly known as Creative Commons NZ, is one of a number of people looking closely at the draft algorithm charter published recently by Statistics NZ. It's the government's most concrete commitment yet to transparent and accountable use of algorithms, AI and other sophisticated data techniques. It's timely.

"I think it's probably past time," says Henk. "Given the amount of algorithms currently used throughout government, we're probably overdue for a commitment on the part of government to use them in ways that ensure equity and fairness." "We have passed the point where we need to have this conversation," agrees data scientist Harkanwal Singh. "It's urgently needed. We need a robust conversation and real action."

Both Henk and Singh welcome the draft charter as a useful statement of principles – and both believe it needs to be clarified and strengthened. For instance, it commits public entities to "upon request, offer technical information about algorithms and the data they use" – which implies there needs to be someone doing the requesting. But who, and how? "That is not clear at the outset," says Singh. "It would be better if the language made it clear. Also, why 'upon request?’ Being open by default is much better and creates a culture of accountability. We do not want a repeat of the OIA experience." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

More from Actually Interesting

Dec 3, 2019

My music streaming service works a whole lot better than it used to. There's a reason for that, and it's the decisive tilt that Apple made a few months ago towards algorithmic playlists on Apple Music. Having branded itself on the virtues of human curation – it's only a year ago that Apple CEO Tim Cook lamented the dehumanising effect of Spotify's data-driven approach to curation – Apple seems to be acknowledging that maybe Spotify has it right. New Music recommendations have improved markedly under this personal robot curation – like I'm getting what an algorithm thinks I'd like, rather than what someone thinks I should like. But the playlist that's really working for me is Favourites Mix, a rolling weekly selection of things that I have loved (and sometimes forgotten) at some point in the past decade or more. Apple knows what I have loved because for all that time I've been telling it, by uploading Genius data from iTunes to the mothership. Apple had a lot of data to push my buttons with – it just finally got around to using it. It's great. It's an example of the power of the aspect of AI we see most in popular culture – the recommendation algorithm. Actually Interesting spoke to Juan Swartz of the Christchurch-based tech company 4th and Andy Low, general manager of DRM New Zealand the country's largest digital distributor of music, about the power of the algorithm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 13, 2019

Here's a thing you probably didn't know: if you've sought ACC cover in the past couple of years, your claim was very likely processed by artificial intelligence. More precisely, your likelihood of cover was assessed by an algorithm trained on an anonymised dataset of 12 million claims made between 2010 and 2016. The AI system embodies a predictive model that decides whether or not your claim clearly falls within the criteria of the Accident Compensation Act 2001. Most claims do, and are thus swiftly and efficiently approved. Uncertain cases or potential refusals are then handled by human staff. It's designed so the computer literally can not say "no". ACC's system is one of a number of case studies cited in Towards Our Intelligent Future: An AI Roadmap for New Zealand, the new report from the AI Forum New Zealand. The report is a substantial work – 180 pages dedicated to explanations of the key AI technologies, a look at the international AI landscape (which is dominated by two research and investment superpowers, the US and China) – and a polite, repeated request for a national AI strategy. The forum made essentially the same call in a report last year and, in a landscape of task forces and working groups, we still haven't seen that strategy. Is government listening? Ben Reid, the AI Forum's executive director, is both diplomatic and optimistic. "They're beginning to. Just recently a group of us from the AI Forum presented to the select committee on economic development, science and innovation and that was the first time I think that AI's been considered by Parliament. I think it's a really positive sign." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 12, 2019

Ana Arriola's talk at the recent Future of the Future seminar – about intersectionality, surveillance capitalism and the risks of AI – might not have been the stuff of your Dad's (or Steve Ballmer's) Microsoft, but it was actually a great reflection of the way Microsoft thinks now. In recent years, the company has devoted attention and resources to contemplating both the power of its technologies and ways to ensure they help rather than harm.

Aug 20, 2019

At this year's AI conference in Auckland the way technological developments would affect law, business, politics, and our everyday lives was at the forefront of the conversation. But then the conference moved into an entirely new space - the space of te ao Māori.

Jul 31, 2019

In the second episode of Actually Interesting, The Spinoff’s new monthly podcast exploring the effect AI has on our lives, Russell Brown explores how aware machines really are with Aware Group's head data Scientist Kane O'Donnell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

See all episodes →