
Show Notes
Europe’s gray-zone war with Russia is getting harder to ignore.
Sarah Wheaton speaks to security expert and author Elisabeth Braw about how Europe should respond as sabotage, arson, cyberattacks and attacks on critical infrastructure become more frequent and more dangerous, who pays when businesses are targeted, and what happens when one of them turns deadly.
They also discuss Braw’s new book, The Undersea War: The International Battle for Supremacy at the Bottom of the World, and the increasingly contested cables, pipelines and infrastructure hidden beneath the seabed — another target in this growing gray-zone conflict.
You can read Elisabeth’s most recent column for POLITICO about how European businesses are paying the cost for Russias hybrid war here.
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