
Show Notes
We're re-airing one of our most popular episodes this week! Karen and Emily sit down with Elizabeth Pehrson to discuss how moms can parent with purpose by focusing on the long game. In this conversation, Elizabeth shares her no-nonsense approach to raising independent, contributing adults. Whether you’re navigating the pressures of parenting littles or wondering how to prepare your teens for the real world, this episode will leave you inspired and equipped. Episode Recap: Elizabeth is a long time friend of BOAW Moms and a breakout speaker at Soar (2:09) Most women live a Groundhog Day kind of life, but they don’t have to (8:08) We can’t love others when we’re not loving ourselves well (10:32) How did The Exchange come about? (12:37) We need to raise adults who are contributors, not consumers (18:25) We are overprotecting and under preparing our kids for the real world (21:00) Keep the long game in mind! (25:01)
Scripture: Proverbs 22:6 (ESV) Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old, he will not depart from it." Questions for Discussion: What areas of parenting do you feel pressured to “do more,” and how might adopting a “do less” mindset bring freedom to your family? How are you currently preparing your children for independence, and what’s one practical step you can take to help them contribute more? Elizabeth emphasizes the importance of rediscovering yourself as a mom. What’s something you used to enjoy that you can reintroduce into your life? How can shifting your focus from short-term achievements to long-term character development change the way you approach parenting?
Resources: Register for the SOAR Conference today. Become a WT+ Insider, boaw.mom/insider Check out Elizabeth’s organization, The Exchange
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